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[Hall of Shame] David Carr cut

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by dntrwl, Feb 27, 2008.

  1. MadMax

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    No I wouldn't. Because what I saw from Schaub was better than what I saw from Carr the year before.

    And the very fact that you're talking about Rosenfels is exhibit "a" for why Carr had to go; with or without Schaub as a replacement.
     
  2. No Worries

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    You are the one not making sense. Our Carr replacement QB missed about 1/2 of the snaps last year due to injuries, injuries that arguably were the fault of the poor pass protection on our OL.
     
  3. No Worries

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    Yes you would! Trust me. ;)

    If the Texans record last year was 6-10 or worse (say if David Carr was our backup QB ;)), you would be less likely to praise the improvement at the QB position.
     
  4. MadMax

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    pass protection was fine last year. with the same cast that was protecting carr the year before. hmmmmmm...
     
  5. MadMax

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    doubtful.

    the qb position improved, whether they won more games or not.
     
  6. ima_drummer2k

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    Most of the snaps he missed were due to an illegal hit he received on an interception return against the chargers. Not much the OL can do about that. Steve Young would have missed games if he had taken the same hit.

    Pass protection was HUGELY improved last year. I wonder why........
     
  7. Major

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    That might be the case for you - but others are actually capable of looking at the QB position and how it's performing regardless of whether the team sucks for other reasons. That's how many people saw that Carr was a problem before others did.

    The offense looked *substantially* better last season, with both Schaub and Rosenfels, than it looked with Carr. The results were only a bit better in the end - but you saw the potential for improvement throughout the season. With Carr, there was little to no potential for improvement even as the team around him improved because *he* was a huge part of the problem. With Schaub, you see the opposite. You especially saw this with Andre Johnson - Schaub was able to use him effectively as a weapon; Carr simply wasn't - he just threw a ton of short passes to him, but never could make him into a true weapon that opened the field for the rest of the team.
     
  8. tulexan

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    Yesterday I was watching NFL Live on ESPN and they were talking to DeAngelo Williams RB of the Panthers. He was unaware of Carr being cut and do you want to know what his reaction was when they told him?

    He laughed and smiled.
     
  9. ima_drummer2k

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    Ugh, I can't BELIEVE I'm being drawn into this argument AGAIN....but what the hell - it's a slow day at work...

    In 2006, the Houston Texans allowed 43 sacks. The 9th highest total in the league. In 2007, the Houston Texans allowed 22 sacks. That’s roughly half the total from the year before and one LESS than the Patriots (and one more than the Colts). How exactly does that translate to “poor pass protection on our OL”??? I guess the Colts and Patriots have poor pass protection too?

    Now, can anyone take a guess at why there was such a huge discrepancy in those sack totals when the OL was basically the same personnel for both years? Hmmmm…..
     
  10. msn

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    Carr has been cut twice in two years. The same OL, with the same coaches, allowed half the sacks with other QBs than with Carr.

    ...and someone's still defending him???

    MUCHCHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHCHAHGHAHAHDHGHAHAHHHAHHHGHHAHAHH!!!!!!!!!

    Holy crap, dude!!

    Come on over and have some crow. My plate was yummy. :D
     
  11. Hippieloser

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    Is funny how some of you guys defended him with soooo many excuses over the years for this



    BUSTA!
     
  13. No Worries

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    So all of those DC three steps went away last year? We could have had Joe effing Montana last year and we would have still seen three step drops and short routes.
     
  14. leroy

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    That's part of Kubiak's offense, along with the rollouts.
     
  15. msn

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    HOW MANY SACKS??
    HOW MANY LONG PASSES?

    You tell me what David Carr could have done with André Davis. Never mind; I'll spare you the trouble: nothing. Not a blessed thing.
     
  16. Major

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    Last year, the team averaged 1 more completion per game (21.6 instead of 20.6) and threw for an extra 56 yards per game (245 vs 189). 5% more completions and 30% more yardage. The routes being run weren't nearly as short last year as the DC years. That, plus Schaub was much better as hitting non-stationary targets that could gain yardage after the catch.
     
  17. The Cat

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    Almost as funny as your incessant love for Reggie Bush back in the day. Tell me, how's he doing?
     
  18. updawg

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    Panthers players never really cared for him.
    Steve Smith is probably jumping for joy
     
  19. HOOP-T

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    How tall is he?

    Can he play basketball?

    ;)
     
  20. TheyCallmeExMan

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    poor david carr, maybe this will give him time to reevaluate what he really wants to do in life and spend more time with his family.

    As a football player he was given all the breaks and couldnt compete but he never once blamed others and always admitted his faults. How many ppl are you going to meet like that?
     

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