that'd be an interesting debate: would you trade the current texans for the current titans. on paper, i probably wouldn't... but i'd likely listen to a head coach swap - no offense to kubiak. every year, i think the gig is up for tennessee... and every year, they surprise me. if they ripped off another 12-4 afc south championship season, i wouldn't be shocked. that's a well-run franchise.
I said that in another thread last week. Seems like every year, I predict their downfall - and every year I'm wrong. And I agree that a lot of that has to do with their head coach. I hope I'm wrong about being wrong this year though..
At least we'll get to see the next black quarterback to win the Superbowl... http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/08/05/very-big-talk-from-vince-young/ Very big talk from Vince Young Posted by Mike Florio on August 5, 2009 3:26 PM ET We suppose it's fitting that, with one of the top-ten quarterback busts from 2006 in the news as he struggles to avoid sliding to third on the depth chart in Arizona, the other top-ten quarterback bust from 2006 is setting a bar for himself that, given his career to date, is unrealistic to the point of complete and total delusion. Young, you see, has a prediction for his career. A big one. "I will be the next black quarterback to win a Super Bowl," Young tells Esquire magazine (via Will Brinson FanHouse). "And I will be in the Hall of Fame." To borrow a line from Borat Sagdiev, "Wow-wow-we-wow." Hey, maybe Vince Young will suddenly undergo a career transformation in 2009 or not long thereafter. But to make that kind of guarantee seems to confirm that he's simply not smart enough to be a successful quarterback in the NFL. In our view, if Young were smart enough to be a successful quarterback in the NFL, Young also would be smart enough to know that the last thing he should be doing at this juncture of his pro career is making boasts of Lombardi Trophies and bronze busts. Meanwhile, we wonder what more accomplished black quarterbacks like Donovan McNabb think of this assertion from Young. In a roundabout way, Young is saying that none of them will win a Super Bowl before Young gets his act together and carries an entire team to the sport's ultimate team accomplishment. Though one thing we've learned from watching the NFL is that nothing can be ruled out, we like McNabb's chances a lot more than Young's. And even if Young ends up on track for a Super Bowl win or a bust in Canton, we suggest that he set his sights a tad lower for now. Becoming a starting quarterback again would be a good place to start.
There is no team that is good throughout every period of it's existence. The Steelers are the closest thing to it, only having what you might call a dry spell in part the 80's (at least in realtively modern football). The Cowboys stunk in the 80's, the 49ers suck now...both are considered great all-time teams. And no other team has gone without bad times, including the Oilers/Titans. Those that think the Titans are a better franchise because they have been more successful since 2002 are kidding themselves, considering the Texans haven't even had enough of a sample to judge them on. And there is no f***ing way I'm trading Bob McNair for Bud Adams. I don't care what the teams on the field are like.
As an avid Oiler fan since 1991, I am pissed! F**k Tennessee. Jerseys that are associated with a city should only be worn by a team that currently houses a franchise in the same city.
I don't think anyone thought he would be in this situation. Let's hope Tennessee moves or waives him. He seems to be in a "Brad Lidge funk when he was in Houston", and needs an address change.
not in this situation, no. but not everyone drank the baby vince kool-aid. i argued then, maintain now - people (fans) VASTLY overrated his rookie season; as an individual performer, he was almost universally mediocre, carried by a young, up-&-coming team that, quite frankly, got really, really lucky that year. uhm... yeah, that's it. an address change... assuming that comes with a brain and arm change.
Apparently Clevland w/ it's deep history and strong fanbase fought Modell hard because of his descion to move the Browns and it became a messy situation. The fans were downright hostile of the move to the point that there were more protesters outside of the stadium during the last game than there were "inside" the stadium.There was an eventual agreement to allow the Clevland Browns history, team and colors to remain w/ the city and the team was "deactivated" for 3 years. Sidenote: The impact of the Browns moving created legal precedents for other sports teams as well which is why when the San Jose Earthquakes moved to Houston to become the Dynamos the history of the Earthquakes remained in San Jose. In the case for the Oilers we had spent 67 million in rennovations in 1987 for the Astrodome (which I think we're still paying for). In return Bud Adams promised 10 years in Houston. By mid 90's some NFL teams built new stadiums and Bud Adams got jealous and demanded a new stadium. The mayor at the time, Bob Lanier, said that what we spent enough back in 1987. So during that time Adams shopped the team around eventually landing in Nashville where the city and state easily won a vote to fund for a new stadium that Adams so desired. Bottom line is that although there were diehard fans in Houston (I myself included), apparently there was not enough support and we did not have enough pull to keep the Oilers in Houston along with our history. I doubt Tagliabue was much of a factor in whether or not we could keep our history but believe it was more dependant on the issue of owner vs. fans and whoever fought the hardest would eventually win.
THis is the only way I'd even get interested in the NFL again. I grew up in the early 1990's on that Houston Oiler run and shoot juggernaut (hey we had a ton of pro bowlers), and seeing them leave to Nashville killed my enthuiasm for pro football. The Texans will never be able to supplant the support I had for the Oilers. There isn't a thing I like about them. I would beg the league and Bud Adams to relinquish the "Oilers" trademarks to Houston, and we could have our team back. Why can't that happen really? Who would be against that?
How can that get your interest? By this point, plastering the Oilers name would just be a superficial change. The Texans franchise would still be the same. If we get the old team back and you get interested, that's a different story.
oh man, If the the fans in Tennessee show up with love ya' blue signs there will be a true hatred towards nashvillians.
they didn't fight - they threatened a lawsuit that would block, delay and/or send the move into a financial hellhole. retaining the name and history was their reward for dropping the suit. BUT here's the critical difference: modell didn't have the same attachment to the name and history the way adams did; that was an easy resolution for him. adams would have fought, with the nfl likely backing him, tooth and nail to retain the name and history - name, especially. he felt he owned them - and in a way, he did. i really wish all sports leagues would adopt the same approach to franchise moves: fine but name and history gets retired and you start fresh. had the nfl had that policy in place in 1995........ i'm not sure adams would have moved. but i think allowing the name and history to go elsewhere is just silly - it really alienates two fan bases the old and new one. having said that, i'm glad the texans had a chance to start fresh. i loved the oilers as much as anyone but i was ready for a clean slate.
I really, REALLY, really, REALLY, really, REALLY, really, REALLY, really, REALLY, really hope the Tucking Fitans go up 35-3 on the score, and the game ends up being a win for the Buffalo Bills 38-35. Too bad it wouldn't count.
