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Hakeem regrets his decision

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rezdawg, Jun 14, 2002.

  1. Space Ghost

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    Why is everyone complaining about Taylors "bloated" contract? His first year he is injured and you write him off as unsucessful?
    Whats sad is he will be out of shape the second year, and you will write him off forever as a failure. Give the guy a break.
     
  2. CriscoKidd

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    Thanks for the #15 Hakeem.

    Have fun sapping $$$ from Toronto for a few more years!!
     
  3. GATER

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    'Scuse me, I forgot... that was Olajuwon that took the Raptors on an amazing run to get into the playoffs when Carter went down for the season. :rolleyes:

    Regardless of the reason, the Raptors do not want Taylor.
     
  4. AroundTheWorld

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    I think someone already posted this in another thread and I would do it in a heartbeat:

    Houston trades: C Kelvin Cato (6.6 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 0.4 apg in 25.5 minutes)
    Houston receives: C Mamadou N'Diaye (4.0 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 0.0 apg in 9.2 minutes)
    C Hakeem Olajuwon (7.1 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 1.1 apg in 22.6 minutes)
    Change in team outlook: +4.5 ppg, +1.2 rpg, and +0.7 apg.

    Toronto trades: C Mamadou N'Diaye (4.0 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 0.0 apg in 9.2 minutes)
    C Hakeem Olajuwon (7.1 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 1.1 apg in 22.6 minutes)
    Toronto receives: C Kelvin Cato (6.6 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 0.4 apg in 75 games)
    Change in team outlook: -4.5 ppg, -1.2 rpg, and -0.7 apg.

    TRADE ACCEPTED


    Who knows, Toronto might even be considering it, after all, Cato is much younger and they have been really disappointed with Dream. Perhaps they would fancy a frontline of Clark/Cato. We would get rid of Cato's contract which runs 2 years longer than Dream's and Dream would be back where he belongs. And come on, don't tell me "We need Kelvin". Nobody needs Kelvin. He is a cancer.
     
  5. Rockets34Legend

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    Sir Chiles,

    That seems like a good idea. Getting rid of Cato and bringing back Hakeem. It seems like a plus on our side. Cato was a reject from the beginning and doesn't need to be around the progress that we are going through. Hakeem, I think, being back in Houston can maybe bolster the defense in the middle along w/ Ming. And what would even be more awesome.....having Ming and Hakeem in the lineup TOGETHER!!! TWIN TOWERS LIVE AGAIN!!!
     
  6. AroundTheWorld

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    Well, if we could then later somehow get Lewis or Odom, I'd be the happiest camper in the world:

    PG: Francis, Moochie
    SG: Mobley, Torres or draft pick
    SF: Lewis (Odom), Rice, Morris
    PF: Griffin, Taylor, Thomas
    C: Ming, Dream, Collier (Hilario?)

    Ok, will never happen, but would be cool.
     
  7. Rockets34Legend

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    Just getting Lewis and Hakeem would be fine by me...would top off a perfect lineup!
     
  8. WinkFan

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    Uh no, that would have been Antonio Davis.
     
  9. fadeaway

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    I thought it was Keon Clark?
     
  10. Rockets34Legend

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    What is GATER yapping about this time? It seems like he isn't a Hakeem fan? I wonder.....
     
  11. Bonomaniac

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    Hakeem sucked in Toronto...why do we want him back?

    I understand how much he meant to Houston but his career is OVER. Do you not remember when Hakeem asked to be waived?

    KELVIN CATO was just as productive as Hakeem last season.
     
  12. GATER

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    I am a Rockets fan first and foremost. Olajuwon is over the hill and was when the Raptors overpaid for him. He sucked in Toronto and the b****ed about the offense not being run thru him.

    He missed 21 games and managed a whopping 7.1 ppg with 6 rebs. His numbers aren't even better than Jerome Williams. And he's in the Eastern Conference.

    http://www.nba.com/raptors/stats/

    During the Raptors run to the playoffs, his minutes in the rotation were given to Eric Montross. At this point in his career, he is often injured and not worth $12m over the next 2 seasons.

    http://www.melanieturgeon.com/Slam020131/nba_tor-cp.html

    There are several Raptors fans at CC and they have all commented on how disappointed they were.

    This article pretty much sums it up:
    "But Olajuwon, who had played decently down the stretch with Houston two seasons ago, was never a factor with the Raptors this season. Although Olajuwon played in 61 games this season, he started just 37 contests and averaged a meager 7.1 points and six rebounds in 22.6 minutes. For the most part, the Raptors played better with him on the bench. "A flop," a Western Conference player personnel director said of Olajuwon. "He’s done." Added another league executive: "What a mistake signing him. To give him that kind of contract was a waste of money." For the record, Olajuwon making $5 million this season and has $5.5 million coming to him next season and $6 million the year after."

    http://www.basketballnews.com/content/nba/docs/tor.asp

    Hakeem is a shadow of his former self and has never mentored or directly taught anyone. If you can't see this, you are severely delusional. It's over and it's time to move on. Your sentimentality and a buck might get you a good cup of coffee.
     
  13. GATER

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    I disagree.

    Carters last game was Mar 17th. In the following 15 games, Mo Pete led or tied for the scoring lead in 9 of those games. Davis led or tied 5 times. The rebounding was equally distributed among Davis, Keon Clark and Jerome Wiliams.

    http://www.nba.com/raptors/schedule/

    They may be equal, but IMO Davis does not get the nod over Peterson. Mo Pete was excellent from the FT line, had a very good TO/Assist ratio for a SG, only took 20 shots once, usually he took about 14, and the rebound total is very high for a SG as well.

    http://www.nba.com/playerfile/morris_peterson/game_by_game_stats.html
     
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  14. GATER

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    Nope.

    Carters last game was Mar 17th. In the following 15 games, Mo Pete led or tied for the scoring lead in 9 of those games. Clark led once. The rebounding was equally distributed among Davis, Keon Clark and Jerome Wiliams.

    http://www.nba.com/raptors/schedule/
     
  15. Desert Scar

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    Gosh, I thought Wilkens is the winningest coach in NBA history and has at least 1 more ring than Larry Brown. Even within the last decade I think he had compitive teams even starting guys as crummy as J Koncak and Alan Henderson at times.

    Also, I thought Nelson used to take slightly above average talent and give loaded and dominant teams like Boston and Phily in the 80s all they could handle deep in the playoffs. I think his current team is doing pretty well also and he had a pretty good result at GS about 10 years ago w/smoke and mirrors (no defense at all).

    These guys may be passed their primes but anyone that thinks they haven't been great coaches with HoF resumes has only watched the NBA a couple of years.
     
  16. Sphere

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    Why would any of you want Hakeem back?
    Don't you people want a championship again?
    Hakeem's so money driven that he would NEVER come back for less than what he is making.
    He's a selfish ass that has more interest in making money and selling his cheap Houston property.
    He NOT the player he was and WILL NEVER be that player again. He CANNOT help this team, they don't need him.
    Might as well get ole Charles Jones back if you need a elderly center.
    Look.....I loved Hakeem and he WAS the best center to play the game but you have to let go and look out what is BEST for thr team. I.E Biggio bringing the Astros down!!!

    Don't bash me for stating my opinion!!!
     
  17. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    I have to admit I wasn't watching basketball when Wilkens won his one championship in his 30+ years of coaching. That was about 25 years ago and I've only been watching for the last 20 or so.

    The only reason Lenny is the winningest coach is because he has coached for 30 years with a little better than 50% winning percentage. He hasn't won a championship in over 20 years, and has only gone to the conference finals once during that 20 year period. He barely made the playoffs in the East coaching two all-stars.

    Don Nelson is even worse than that. He's been coaching for over 25 years and his teams have only gone to the playoffs about half the time. In the last 10 years he has won exactly 2 playoff series and that is with Cuban's money and three all stars on the team.

    Just because you've coached for a long time doesn't mean you're good.
     
  18. Hydra

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    The grass is always greener, eh Benedict Olajuwon.
     
  19. rezdawg

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    I think getting Hakeem back on our team would be pretty useless. His body cannot realistically go more than 20 min a game. And in the western conference, he could not go up against the big boys. I would rather use that time to develop the Ming Dynasty. Plus, how much can Hakeem really teach Ming. Im sure Ming will have a difficult time trying to understand Hakeem speak english.

    Hakeem left us and now he's gotta live with it.
     
  20. heypartner

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    Would anyone trade the #15 for Hakeem?
     

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