Guys, you get pissed off that Tmac is a jumpshooter yet youi want Kobe

lol, I guess you could say that...but without getting any details I'll just say that since the organization paid for the tickets that they didn't want fans expressing any sort of "negativity" about the team....even if that "negativity" was true and was expressed by some of the players on the team.....

I'm sure he'll turn it around just, because he's gifted as hell, but this team will still be one in done unless we get someone with some balls in here

the real problem is that tmac has given fans around here little to cheer for or "remember".......it's hard to forget when a person is on top when in fact they've never gotten out of the valley............

 

There is. People simply ignore it when it doesn't fit their view about certain players.

 

If Morey's statistics works, we'll be 24-0 by now.

 

When your team goes 4-5 in the last 5min, including 3-3 from the line, you do not want your star to pull a D-Wade and play 1 on 1 with how well the Rockets were rolling offensively as a team.

I'd take T-Mac over Howard, Amare, Paul, Melo and Boozer. I'll explain my reasons-

T-Mac over Howard- Howard offensively has all the problems that Yao does with being fronted, and is also far more limited. Defensively he has been good this year, but is not a strong man to man defender. He is a poor passr who is HIGHLY TO prone.

 

lol, whatever man.......if you are alright with your star player being MIA in the last few minutes of a basketball then get used to rooting for players who go out in the 1st round..................D Wade = has a ring....Tmac =

 

T-Mac over Amare- Amare is a 50% shooter without Nash, and is a horrible defensive player who gets into foul trouble far too often (over 4PF's per game). He is not the scorer, passer or defensive plkayer T-Mac is.

T-mac over Paul- Paul has not proven he can sustain what he is doing over the course of a season.

T-Mac over Melo- Scoring and rebounding can be argued, but T-mac is a FAR better passr and decision maker.

T-Mac over Boozer- His production is largely off of the system he plays in and the PG he plays with. He is not a big man you can pound the ball into the post...he needs to be fed off the pick and roll. He is also average at best defensively. He wouldn't be a star-caliber player without Williams.


Team USA-

No, he faced rape charges in 03-04, the year they got Payton and Malone, not in 02-03.

 

I'd rather my star player play the passing game in the last 4min (2 assists) if his teammates are on fire. There is no way the Rockets would have been close if he had stagnated the offense and played 1 on 1...same goes for any star player, even Kobe.

 

as much as I hate the jazz this is false....Boozer can face his man up and go around him and he also has a pretty good jumper and some post moves.......he does benefit from the pick and roll, but let's not act like the dude isn't a beast.......he's avg. 25 and 12......that's sick.

 

Paul = the next Isiah Thomas...........Isiah > Tmac.

 

I'm starting to think that tmac has created an account at clutch fans....can anyone check on this????

 

It is sick, but 72% of his baskets are assisted, primarily off the pick and roll. Don't be confused by the Rockets series- He is not nearly as effective when he is forced to be a 1 on 1 player in which he ripped apart Yao, and he sure isn't a very effective back to the basket player.

 

Just because you were wrong about game 7 doesn't mean you have to keep blowing the facts off. When your team is 4-5 in the final 4min, offense is not the problem. T-mac did his job leading the charge by coming back from 16pts down to take a 5pt lead, he was benched, came back in and had 3 assists and 8 points in the 4th quarter in which the Rockets were on fire...defense and rebounding was the problem.

 

an assist still requires some skill on the other end of that pass..it isn't like he's getting wide open point blank dunks.....I could say tmac is overrated, because a high percentage of plays ran for him are the pick and roll.............

wrong???.......wrong about what...we just have different views of what superstars should do down the stretch...I think that they should take the initiative to take over late (like Bird, Jordan, Magic, Hakeem, Kobe, Wade, Bron, Isiah, etc.) and put pressure on the defense you think they should move the ball around to their role players and not score a single point in the final 6 minutes until a meaningless layup with 9 seconds left...... [smart assism]I'm sure every rockets fan loves to see tmac do that[/smart assism]

 

Boozer isn't necessarily a guy like Amare pre-injury was in that on every pick and roll he is finishing at the basket...what makes Boozer so good on the pick and roll is his pure jumpshot from the midrange.

The thing is T-Mac is NOT a pick and roll player. He has shot such a poor % the past few seasons largely because that is all that has been ran for him. This year, while he still runs a lot of pick and roll, he has been involved ina lot of iso's as well as off ball, and thus he is shooting his best %'s from both 2 and 3 as a Rocket.

I never said that superstars should be passing the ball around all the time in the final minutes of a game...I think they should make the right plays down the stretch. T-Mac did that in the final minutes of the 4th quarter, and the team shot 80% because of his willingness to feed the hot hand instead of play 1 on 1 and take a lower % shot. Other times T-Mac needs to do a better job of taking over down the stretch with his scoring, which he has and hasn't done in the past (for recent examples, he did it vs the Bobcats and didn't do it in the 2nd game against the Mavs when they rallied from 17 down).

 

No, you are talking about generations, and TMac has lost multiple people important to him in his life as short as a couple of years ago. Sorry, that is quite a bit more impactful than thoughts of, "damn I shouldn't have put it in da butt, and now my fine ass wife is mad, I gotta spring for a big ass ring now."

I really don't know what you are trying to say here, did I really have to just explain that?

You bring up an event Kobe went through that perhaps affected his play. A court case b/c HE decided to get busted cheating and doing whatever. Tracy lost people to on fault of his. Point being we can make excuses for each player all day long. We can argue back and forth about who is better, or how much or how little Kobe is better than Mac. I don't think you've found many if anyone here saying Mac > Kobe. Just simply that 1.) their jumpshooting stats are very simliar and/or 2.) to compare the two actually isn't that much of a stretch.

 

it is if you actually think tmac is on the same level as kobe.......

 

Do you even understand what Morey does?

 

There are MAYBE 2-3 other players on Kobe's level, which is the very best in the league. You will find no player in the league that can do many of the things Kobe can on offense, and in terms of production and actual skill level T-Mac and Kobe are also similar. EVERYONE knows Kobe is better, but T-mac is a concencus top 10 player who does deserve the right to be compared to Kobe without people completely dismissing it and dissing T-Mac.

 

do you?

 

Back away from the crack pipe!

Isiah was great, no doubt, but you need to remember that he had Dumars, Lambier, and Aguirre. T-Mac has had almost nothing, except Yao for the last three years in his career. No other solid roll players. Hell, his first championship was against the Lakers with significant injuries to Magic and Scott, and Kareem was almost 100 by then (and probably burning a fat one before the games) .

T-Mac may not have his intensity, but he is still the superior player.