Guys, you get pissed off that Tmac is a jumpshooter yet youi want Kobe

I live in the LA area so I watch kobe play all the time on TV because every single Lakers game is televised.

Let me say this, both Kobe and TMac shoot mostly jumpers and take it to the rim at a much lower percentage than when they were younger. Even Jordan stopped taking it to the rim all the time when he got older. The difference is when you watch defenders on Jordan and Kobe they are all over them because they actually have a deadly jumpshot that they will consistently drain if left open. Kobe gets to the line frequently because of this, he loves to pump fake multiple times, draw defenders and get to the line. That is why Kobe takes so much more FTs, if you watch the difference bbetween Kobe and TMac, TMac doesn't draw defenders as close as Kobe does, and I think it's because Kobe is the better shooter and creates more fear from the opponents when he's out there shooting jumpers than TMac does. Even though Kobe shoots mostly jumpers like TMac does, he also seems to be trying to draw contact more often just so he can get to the line in a lot of those shots, and his superior FT % probably allows him to more actively seek the line than TMac does...

 

please do not put kobe and tmac in the same sentense ever again....

 

You need to watch more Rockets games then, cause they are all over T-Mac as well. If you pay attention, there are many times during a game where T-mac is doubled at the three point line, cause no one fears the role players. Kobe also gets more calls than T-Mac, which also inflates the FT stats. Kobe is, however, a better defender and plays with more passion.

 

kobe plays through injuries, this season alone, he refused to go to hospital for his stomach flu and insisted on playing and lead the lakers to win over wolves. Game vs warriors he sprained his quads and the night he said he didn't sleep but putting ice on this quad and working out his legs so they wont get stiff, and next day he is in the lineup against the clippers. And looking at TMAC.... Just putting Tquitter in the same line near the name kobe is a disgrace for kobe bryant

 

its good tmac doesn't get as much calls as kobe, not like he can knock down his FT consistently anyways

 

Career 75% is not horrible, but admittedly Kobe is better at 84%.

 

career at 84 is alot different than career at 75% especially in past 2 seasons he can't even shoot FT at 75%

 

No offence, but McGrady is a walking injury with the cronic back problems. The Warrior game is only one instance, and they were up in that game. I think T-Mac removed himself when the Rockets were down 20+ (I think). If you change the cirsumstances, Kobe would have quit and T-mac would have stayed IMO.

 

Agreed, but it is not chopped liver either.

 

doubt kobe would quit like t-mac especially having such a poor game as he did against a rival team none other than dallas and your walk into the tunnel with a happy smiling face while your big center worked his ass off trying to carry the team

 

Kobe is considered the number basketball player in the world by many. And I do not think Tmac is somewhere near.

The only factor that TRaci is ahead is his height by an inch.

 

T-Mac brought the team back almost single handedly, and instead of killing all the offensive momentum he made the right plays...in the last 4min, it was getting the ball to Yao, who was hot that quarter and was huge in the final 4min. The team had no problems scoring in the final minutes thanks to Yao. If Yao was not scoring at such a high efficiency, yet T-Mac still didn't shoot, then we'd have a problem...that was not the case, however.

He's not MUCH better than T-Mac, and any fair weather fans will tell you that. Kobe is currently the best player in the league while T-Mac is a concncus top 10 player. It isn't like we are comparing Kobe to a borderline top 30 player.

Who's insisting T-Mac is better than Kobe? Nobody is.

Guess you forgot about the beginning of 02-03 when the Lakers struggled mightily with Shaq in and out of the lineup and, despite no coaching or roster change they were around and below .500 for a good portion of the season. . Guess you forgot about 04-05 when, despite having the likes of Caron Butler and Lamar Odom and a very good coach in Rudy T the team was sub.500 even before Kobe went down to injury.

Right now, the Lakers have a team that has been together for going on 3 years, including both the roster and coaching staff. The team clearly knows how to run the triangle, and despite not being an extremely talented squad, the principles of the triangle have made them all look good. It has allowed Kobe, who has had a sub par season so far, to sit back and relax while guys like Fisher, Bynum and Farmar are lighting it up. Meanwhile the Rockets have a good 4-5 new rotational players along with a tougher, more road-oriented schedule and new coach with principles polar opposite of JVG's. Kobe and his "heart" would not have changed much of how this season has gone down, and the Rockets would still be hovering around .500. Now, if you give the Rockets Derek Fisher ahead of Rafer Alston, then we would be in much better shape then if we substituted Kobe for T-Mac.

 

anybody who wouldnt trade tmac for kobe is dumb. kobe is the best in the nba and tmac is becoming more and more of a mediocre player.

 

Yep...a 2x scoring champion who is currently ahead of Nash for a spot as an all star starter and is currently averaging 24.5./5.5/5 is REALLY mediocre

You can say all you want how T-Mac has fallen off, but to call him a mediocre player or anywhere near that is ridiculous.

 

Not only ridiculous, but moronic as well!

 

LOL!!! You're brilliant!

 

I know he is a bad azz, but he is being dogged on the spurs forums for his numbers being on the decline--trust me on this. So, that was my way of saying that he will always be of service..ie use to his team till the day he retires; even if his numbers continue to decline.

 

surely you're not saying that, b/c TMac has more fan votes than Steve Nash, he's better than him, are you?

where has TMac finished in MVP voting (voted on by national sportswriters, not national & international/Chinese fans) the last few years compared to Kobe, Nash, and (gasp) even Dirk?

i think we can all agree that TMac is talented. those clamoring for Kobe (or anyone else besides TMac) are questioning TMac's hunger, passion, and mental strength. as long as you can see where those people are coming from, i think this thread can be locked.

 

if and only if there is a trade proposal from the lakers with kobe for tmac, I dont see any reason from the houston rocket side that this trade will not go down. Your trading an allstar, which the league has plenty for the best basketball player in the world.

 

yeah, i hope so, too.
but do you think it's possible?
who would like to accept such a super player with such high salary but also too many injuries?