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GUYs, try to suggest some solution for the FRONTING problem.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by janpwnz, Feb 24, 2009.

  1. tinywang

    tinywang Member

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    Flopping is gay regardless who does it. I have no respect for floppers.
     
  2. Old Man Rock

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    It's not flopping when you are really getting beat up. Yao is fouled every play but because he has so much girth he can maintain his balance. Yao should stop working so hard at maintaining his balance and learn to reacte to the fouls. If they want to beat him up then let the refs know they are by the reaction to it. Yao should get super star status for foul calling yet he is the worst officiated player in the NBA. He doesn't get a fraction of the calls he should.

    In the refs mind every action has a reaction. Yet Yao's reaction is mostly internal. his beating is mostly internal. He gets frustrated by it especially when he doesn't get the same treatment on the other side. I say Yao react to your fouls, maybe not falling down but jump back and grimace. He really is getting beat up so why not just be a little more dramatic about. It's not faking when you have to go to the locker room for 10 stitches cause someone whacked you in the face and there was no foul called. I love you but the biggest thing he seems to lack is a mean streak. He should get more angry when it happens. Yao needs to get kicked out of 1 game maybe get into a small fight. Okay I am pushing it but I would like to see Yao get really angry once.
     
  3. RareAir

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    throw him the damn ball!!!! he's friggin 7'6", when he puts his hand up that's pretty friggin tall and if the pass is thrown right he won't have to put the ball on the floor.
     
  4. rocketman1979

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    Do you really think they'll all squeeze into that space without a foul getting called?
     
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    Didn't you know man, Adelman reads every post, looking, hoping, praying for the play to save his team because he's never created a play to beat fronting.
     
  7. ferrarif1286

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    just don't run the same play over and over and over and over and over and over and over again....
     
  8. pacmania

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    The best way to throw a lob over a fronting defender is by putting the ball over your head with two hands ( overhead lob pass) and giving it the right arc so only Yao can catch it.

    the funny thing is most rockets players like battier, use a sort of quick chest pass as a post entry pass. They bring the ball down to their chest or below their knees to execute a bounce pass into the post. When a defender fronts your post player and you are used to throwing a chest pass as an entry pass this option is totally eliminated.

    The beauty of an overhead pass ( holding the ball over your head with two hands) is that you can fake the pass easily and you are in a position to shoot at the same time.

    With a seven foot six center an overhead lob pass would be a cinch. When you throw an overhead lob pass its almost just like shooting the ball, you have the ball over your head with two hands and you stroke it, so it is very accurate. The technique is to get the right balance of speed on the pass so it is not intercepted and arc so that Yao can catch it in scoring position.

    Another thing the lakers used to do with Shaq is throw an alley oop play because the rim is virtually unguarded. With Yao , we could probably throw it so close to the rim but Yao doesn't have to dunk it. he can catch it close to the rim and gather himself before slamming it. Similar to what Kyle lowry did on that pick and roll play where he just threw it up so Yao could catch it close to the ring. When yao caught it he was virtually under the basket.
     
  9. nycundaground

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    So this is the plan; have AB and Yao play a 2 man game. The way I position this plan was evident in the recent Chicago Bulls game where Brad Miller was fronting Yao.

    1. Yao is fronted and tries to lock his left foot into Brad's inner right foot.

    2. Yao swings out keeping Brad locked, and tries to set a mini pick for AB to drive to the basket.

    3. AB's defender runs into a concrete wall and AB will get an easy layup or an easy pass to Scola.
     
  10. nycundaground

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    The problem with that idea is that Yao has very very bad hands and if a defender slides and tries to defend the lob pass, Yao would most likely travel or get the ball stolen.
     
  11. el_locoteee

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    They ran that play 2 times late against Minnesota. Good Idea. The problem is when AB stop the dribble then the play die, he needs to keep the dribble as long as possible when Yao is getting position.
     
  12. ibm

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    they tried the lob a few times in the minny game and yao didn't fumble for once.

    the thing is for yao to hold the ball up high after he receives the pass. more often than not, the guy at his back will immediately come over to help, thus forming a double team. with the ball in his hands, yao can either attack the double team or throw it to an open teammate (which he did in the minny game).

    of course, lob is just one of the options.

    say we play the rapters tonight. neither bosh nor bargnani is as wide or heavy as brad miller. so yao should be able to seal the fronting man and ab can use the semi-pick to go to the basket. just a thought.
     
  13. ILOVE_AI3

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    quote: There's a saying in Chinese "3 Lazy Elephant > the smartest tactician".



    I have no objection to other all,but apart from this sentence,that Chinese Idioms says "3 stupid tanner > the smartest tactician"
     
  14. Al Capone

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    We know whats coming next game.


    Did anyone notice any holes in Portlands game that would give us more options to beat the front?


    From the slashing AB was able to pull off, i can see him drawing defenders on a drive then tossing a Magic pass to Yao for an easy deuce.
     
  15. fogo11606

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    How about give Yao some help on the off.rebound if you decide to shoot while he's being front. Like at have 2 guys going to the rim to act like they trying to get the rebound.
     
  16. rocksclo

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    I think PG driving to the basket is the answer of fronting because you are basically taking out one of their shot blocker (likely to be defending Yao) out of the paint. if Scola set the back screen on AB's defender when AB drive by, AB is only left with Scola's defender and possible prerimeter defenders who guard Ron or Shane to collapse. In that case, AB is left with three options. Lay up, Kick it out, or Dish to Yao. Also, Yao and Scola is left with a great position to Rebound or get a defensive fouled by defenders try to help.
     
  17. rocksclo

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    I didnt quite understand at your plot at first but I after reading it a bit more I think that's exactly what I had in mind also. When AB drives in their defense has to collapse because Yao is fronted and their shotblocker is out of position to defend/rebound. That leaves AB with lots options and Yao a good chance getting fouled if he gets the offensive rebound.
    Great post. Lets help our Rockets win!!!! I hope Aldleman sees this too.
     
  18. DreaMac

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    As I posted on the other Fronting thread, I think this can be deadly. opens up alot of options.



     
  19. newengland

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    3 bowls of rice > the best taste beef stake?

     
  20. newengland

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    nice tactic man - if we are playing soccer and in free kick situation

     

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