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GUYs, try to suggest some solution for the FRONTING problem.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by janpwnz, Feb 24, 2009.

  1. BigPun662

    BigPun662 Member

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    nope, im sticking with adelman honking a horn whenever yao is open or flashing acoss the paint....it probably wouldnt work with tmac and rafer but it should work with this group
     
  2. mooseatwork

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    Put cook in and spread the floor, the fronting only works because when we try to lob it over the weakside help always disruptes the play.

    Maybe we put Yao in the high post as a passer(where the center is traditonally supposed to be in adelmans offense) and run the offense.

    neither are great ideas but they are ideas
     
  3. GMNot

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    There are several ways to go at this -- some already mentioned.

    Having legit. 3-point shooters in the game is a key. With this, another play might be to have Yao drift back towards the basket a little, then have AB or Lowry attack the rim from a 45-deg. angle on the strong side (with the fronting defender in line of sight going to the basket). As the fronter steps out a bit to defend the basket, Yao then steps out a bit in the direction of the free-throw line. A "high" bounce pass to Yao as the driver gets close to the fronter allows Yao to turn and go to the basket. This IS a bit risky because of it being a bounce pass, but maybe no more risky than a lob considering Yao might bobble that as well. Alternatively, depending on the help defense that might develop toward the driver, he can then kick it back out for a good-look 3.
     
  4. ILoveTheRockets

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    Best thing to do to solve the fronting of Yao Problem...

    SET A PICK ON BOTH SIDES OF YAO'S DEFENDER! Bam, the defender says Bye Bye to Yao as Yao grabs a pass for a easy posterizing slam dunk.
     
  5. Herb

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    Yao could develop a high post game. He won't be in his best scoring position but he could put his teammates in better scoring position. All big men shoot jumpers once in awhile. There are a few exceptions like Shaq but that's because they can't shoot. Yao is trying to play like Shaq but he doesn't have his abilties (good balance, strong hands, strength/quickness for his size). I can't understand why he ignores one of his best abilities in shooting. A good shooting big man is an asset to any team.
     
  6. Shroopy2

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    Rockets are probably doing the right thing now, both helping Yao and overall helping the offense apart from Yao with the players they're getting. Because it might be 40% Yao himself cant work through the fronting unless there's a power forward in 3 pt territory to spread the help-defender away.

    Its why dribble penetration is so key. Instead of just hoisting standstill 20 foot lobs at Yao from all angles of the court, drive into the paint and get defenses to commit. Then pass it off to Yao diving toward the bucket or him going to the spot the defender leaves. Rockets can even just dare the front defense and pass it to Yao anyways. And get on Yao's tail about not hauling the ball in
     
  7. scalper

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    BUMP....

    I think we need to come up with more ideas... maybe even vote on the best ones.. since we know Artest reads this forum... maybe he might make a few suggestions...

    because right now... nothing has changed... and this has been going on for years.... :(
     
  8. BigPun662

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    simple. they always do it in college when players cant establish the post like a tired yao. you bring scola to the freethrow line, hit him quick and he dumps it to the fronted yao quick....this has to be a bang bang play and im shocked the coaching staff hasnt adjusted....weird...

     
  9. Lonestar

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    1. AB drives which means creating ....
    2. Yao goes to the high post
    3. Quicker ball movement
    ....
     
  10. BigPun662

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    dude my way is less complicated, read above

     
  11. leonking

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    There is no answer for AB and Lowry.
     
  12. shortfuse3

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    theres 2 problems with fronting: 1 is we can't get the ball to yao. 2 is we can't drive because he's still in the lane. if you find the solution then by all means apply for an nba coaching job.
     
  13. scalper

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    maybe people think driving the ball into the paint means you take it to the the hoop for a dunk every time...

    I for one dont think so... you get by your man... you have already gained a advantage...by breaking down the defense...

    and if there is no pass.. or path to the basket... ill take a 9 foot jump shot in the paint anyday...

    heck people talk about Yao being there taking up space in the paint...but basically his man is fronting...on the outside... and Yao is closer to the basket... where a 3 point shot is going to bounce out farther when missed then a shot from inside the paint...

    in any event... our players get into the paint... and I have a feeling Yaos man is not going to be fronting...but coming on help defense...
     
  14. hancock.corey

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    i hope u all have some sort of way of getting these ideas to adelman, lol.
     
  15. DaronMalakian

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    This is what me made against Lakers.

    1. Alston
    2. Wafer
    3. Landry/Shane
    4. Scola
    5. Yao

    This happened

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  16. Herb

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    It's a good time for Yao to start using his jump shot and play pick-and-pop to help his team get better looks. Give your guards a good screen and pull out the opposing team's big man and let the others break the defense.
     
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    The Solution is plain and simple: don't make Yao option No. 1 when he's fronted. Make him a screener and put his big body in use.
     
  18. HTR99

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    Yea, this play should definitely work but maybe they've tried it in practice. We all know how good Yao's hands are at times prolly making them say it won't work.

    Go Rockets.
     
  19. Herb

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    It's in one of their plays already. They run it all the time with Scola.
     
  20. scalper

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    another thing... I always found the best way to free up a defender off your man is to go at that defender... force him to defend u....


    I figure if Brooks has the ball... he dosent have to drive into the paint... but drive towards... the base line.. on the side Yao is being fronted on...

    ofcourse... Brooks man will follow... and he will basically have both his man... and the man fronting Yao between him and Yao

    then if he dosent see a pass to Yao either on the drive.. or when he spots up... take a shot (Yao will be in perfect rebounding position...)or swing the ball back out quickly and attack from the weakside..
     

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