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Gun Show: $5,000 and One Hour Buys 10 Guns

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by KingCheetah, Apr 10, 2009.

  1. fmullegun

    fmullegun Contributing Member

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    Funny, how do I see if the gun fits my hand or is to heavy over the internet?

    Can I hand pick my rifle stock over the internet (if so which site).

    Will they ship me a gun for free to see if I like the sights and action and trigger?
     
  2. fmullegun

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    Also on a less sarcastic note, do you know anyone who has Armalites in stock that you buy from?

    thanks
     
  3. Ottomaton

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    No. I've been waiting on an order from Armalite since February. They are seriously backed up.
     
  4. fmullegun

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    did they give you any kinda of timeline?
     
  5. Ottomaton

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    Unfortunately, no.
     
  6. Major

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    Except it is a loophole. The purpose of background checks on weapon sales was to help prevent criminals from legally buying weapons. If they can do that at a gunshow, that's a loophole to the intent of the law. If we intend for criminals to be able to buy guns legally, why have background checks at all?
     
  7. fmullegun

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    Correct if the gunshow is the only place they can do that, it is a loophole.

    However the laws for purchasing guns does not change at a gunshow.
     
  8. OddsOn

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    Do you work for George Soros?

    This is nothing but a typical political posturing piece. I cannot speak for all gun shows but the ones that I buy my guns from all check backgrounds by law. You have to fill out a form, provide them your cricital information and then they call to verify and do a back ground check. If the vendor was violating this policy then he should be charged. This is like saying if a drunk driver kills somebody that we should close down the bars or auto industry.
     
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    Texas requires the background check, at least from dealers. It looks like many other states do not.

    I don't know all the law about this, but does Texas require all sales at gunshows to be done with a background check, or is it only for the dealers? Are they currently hosting dealers and private individual sellers too?
     
  10. God's Son

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    yah but dont texas already not care about that stuff? i mean if u can meet a random guy and just exchange a gun and some cash on the street in houston without getting into legal trouble then why not at a gun show? i am guessing there are no restrictions on these quick sales with no background check either at gun shows here

    i dont know texas law but just guessing here
     
  11. KingCheetah

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    I support making it as difficult as possible for criminals to purchase guns -- if this causes the end of the 'gun show' business then so be it.

    If 'gun shows' are illegal or severely restricted this in no way effects my ability to head down to the range and shoot some targets or bust some clay pigeons.

    Heck, I might still even be able to go hunting !
     
  12. Ottomaton

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    It is a federal law that requires background check from dealers always, no matter what state they are in. The problem is that if someone who doesn't have a license wants to sell his gun to a complete stranger, he can as long as he confirms that the buyer has a state issued ID (can't sell across state lines). The law was written that way so Bubba at the local gun club could sell his personal rifle to his good friend Billy Bob without having to go through a dealer. It wasn't intended for the type of impersonal transactions that go on at these shows. This isn't just some dude selling his grandpa's 20 year old single shot shotgun, either. There are guys who are essentially 'semi-professionals' who do large volume buying and selling at these shows.

    This is why it is described as a 'loophole', though obviously some feel the need to dispute that term. It is described as such because it takes a clause in the law designed for small scale, personal transactions and uses it in an impersonal large volume way, by using the gun show to create a marketplace that wouldn't exist otherwise.

    And this is not theoretical. This isn't exactly a secret. I know for a fact that there are felons arrested for gun crimes in Houston who have gone to local gun shows and bought new to nearly new SIG P-229's, Glock 19's etc. Furthermore, since these transactions can occur multiple times 'off the books' of dealers, it is impossible to trace the background of where these guns came from.

    There are some obvious ways to fix this without shutting down gun shows, but even considering this is too much for some people.
     
  13. OddsOn

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    Great post!

    have always bought from dealers and not individuals, I guess for no other reason but to error on the side of caution to ensure the weapons are clean. Bottom line is it always falls back to personal accountability for all parties involved. Lets not throw the baby out with the bathwater on highly publicizied political issues like this.
     
  14. bingsha10

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    two words: losing issue.
     
  15. fmullegun

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    two more words:

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