anyone who wants to buy alcohol needs to be in a national registry and the alcohol they buy will be individually numbered to them via the container upon purchase. If any teen is found drinking from that container thats a crime, any teen found dead as a result of drinking it or kills as a result from drinking it, thats a murder charge.
Alcohol isn't designed to kill people. If you're going to register people to buy alcohol then you're going to register people to buy cigarettes or ice cream or anything else that somehow may ultimately in some way contribute to someone's death?
no, I am logically going after big the killer of teens and innocent people. The number one killer of teens is car accident. No matter what alcohol was designed to do, what it is doing is killing people, in mass numbers. And with automobiles, many of those people never even drank any. We are putting all the responsibility on store owners, why not on consumers? Its not hard to NOT give alcohol to minors but it happens everyday because no one cares.
You're logically missing the point. Guns are designed to kill. That is their sole purpose. It's already illegal for minors to drink and for them to drink and drive. If you want to just outlaw things that kill people, then outlaw swimming pools.
those laws are not working. Alcohol was not designed, it is a basic controlled substance. I guess its somehow better since it was not thought up by a human but I do not see that as any advantage. Your swimming pool argument would some merit if they killed anywhere near the amount of people alcohol does.
Fmullgen like to troll and turn conversations around on innane points that have no connectivity to the topic at hand. DD
13 out of you 18 initial points involved death or injury and many were talking about kids and teens. I was talking of those points.
The problem isn't really guns, it's stupid people. Give a stupid person a gun, car, booze, drugs, etc. and you're way more likely to have a problem.
Personally, I prefer the known over the unknown. Guns kill. Therefore we can act appropriately. The purpose of alcohol is ambiguous. It is designed for you to lose your judgement at an exponential pace. Mixing them makes the rate ambiguous. It's an open ended weapon - it MIGHT kill, therefore we shouldn't regulate it as a killer? Doesn't make sense. I think everyone should be registered. Up to a certain amount of alcohol should not be information that can be used in court or publicly. However, after crossing a certain line, it should be tagged that you are in the x'th percentile of drinkers.
This thread is so dumb. Let's just take this one line out of a terrible one-sided article for a second. I hate to resort to a tv show to refute a stupid thread like this, but The Wire is lauded for what a realistic drama it is. In The Wire you're looking at one inner city where kids are getting shot up everyday. Now tell me, what law related to guns are you going to enact that is going to stop any of that?
Since Heller, Chicago now has the most restrictive gun laws in the country. It's also the murder capital now. It's twice as dangerous as Baghdad, worse than Detroit, and almost as bad as Caracas. Coincidence? A little more common sense for gun control would mean letting those who live in downtrodden, urban areas have a better opportunity to defend themselves.
Or a much better way would be to reduce crime in other ways that do not involve messing with any gun laws. Increasing or decreasing the laws will not make a big as a difference as just focusing on reducing crime.
I would check other countries like the UK and Australia and how they enacted their gun laws, I don't really have an answer. I just know something more is needed. DD
Well you proposed limiting gun shows and having some background checks. What do you think McNulty would say about those suggestions helping him reduce the murder count in DC?
Nationally and in most states, I tend to agree. But in a few cities, the criminals have most of the guns, and they need to loosen those laws. I think the courts will force them to soon, but the smart thing to do would be to do it legislatively instead.
I dont get it... if you Americans... are so gung ho... on the right to bear arms... why is it everytime there is a shooting at a school... you have like 1000 students and teachers running in fright...but no one runs to get a gun or hunting rifle from the truck parked in the parking lot... when a incident like this happens... your news programs spend weeks.. on it... you have people crying,sad, angry in disbelief.... seriously though... you guys just need to zip the lip up... and take it... because you have no excuses...
Putting more restrictions on gun ownership should be a no brainer, and only hasn't happened already because of the current political system. Drunk driving penalties also should be harsher. And a million other things should be different, too...
Can you point me to the stat that shows hoe many of the gun related deaths are caused by an AK-47 or an AR-15? Of course not... This has been hashed and rehashed. These arguments based on lists of statistics that turn out to be a fountain of misinformation have grown tiresome.
