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[Guitar] Is this the best way to learn Stevie Ray Vaughan?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Surfguy, May 5, 2023.

  1. LosPollosHermanos

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    you were the one that gave me some good advice in a similar thread 5sh yrs prior. 20 years for me, stagnant for 15 of those

    CAGED is just a formal name for what you already know. You probably already know the triads, but not everything is an E shape or A shape chord, bar and make D, C, G shapes all over the neck. Helps visualize when you solo / play rhythm
     
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    well it was an iMac 7 an Mbox gen 3 and Protools but since it's all like 12 years old none of it works anymore. If only I had 3 grand now! I've got some decent mics too
     
  3. Surfguy

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    I'm gonna give you guys the sass my Dad used to give me back in the 80s:

    "Look, DUDES, where do you want to be dropped off?" * - with a smirk

    Us dudes wearing 80s rock concert t-shirts and unable to drive as we're not old enough being driven around by my old man.

    We be like "take us to baybrook mall!". Malls we're in.

    It was funny as ****! You had to be there.
     
  4. rocketsjudoka

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    Good thread and some really good advice here. I can play some SRV songs but I can’t play like SRV. With SRV I think the instrument really makes a difference and that Fender neck makes it possible to play with your thumb and some other techniques that SRV does.

    As a kid a started out playing classical (Asian Family) but also had the chance to study under one of Billy Gibbons guitar teachers who focused on the blues. I remember him teaching the cage method and pentatonics but he never called them that. In high school and college I was playing in Jazz bands. In college I had a big Santana phase and got really drawn to that style of soloing and found it worked very well with the stuff that I learned from classical nd Jazz.

    Also the first electrical I got was a Les Paul knock off and since then I’ve almost solely played either actual Les Pauls or Gibson type guitars. Even my primary acoustic, A Guild, I got because it feels very much like a Gibson. Any time I play a Strat or Telecaster I have trouble playing those.

    The last few years I’ve been playing music like what Dropkick Murphys and Social Distortion does. One thing I found though is that a lot stuff that Carlos Santana does works for that sound even though in attitude they are totally different. The emphasis is less is laws on speed and lightness like SRV but in heaviness and distinctiveness of notes. Also it’s less playing pentatonic scales but more in major and minor scales. Those work great on Les Pauls.
     
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    My brother is like this, and it pisses me off because I can't.
     
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    When I read this, my first thought was George Benson.


    Also, I saw this, which is one of a series, when looking for the first video.
     
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    I was watching a training video on intervals earlier. Mind blown but also noticed I'm using intervals all over the place and just not knowing what their called. lol
     
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    We should have a clutchfans guitar solo contest?
     
  9. LosPollosHermanos

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    Jazz? You probably have a really good grasp on music/theory.

    i regret not learning it earlier, my progress in the first couple years would have been exponentially more
     
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    Unfortunately I don't have that great grasp on music theory. I used to be able to read sheet music but it's been decades since. Same with understanding music theory. I love the stuff that I play now but it's not intellectually challenging.

    I agree though that playing classical early on and then playing Jazz really helped with the basics. the understanding of scales and chord structure (not just in the finger position of playing guitar but how chords are built up from the notes) did help a lot.
     
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  11. LosPollosHermanos

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    Yea that’s what I mean. The idea you should play your pentatonics alll day long to a metronome alone is dumb.

    like everything else, you like something ask yourself why does it sound great. Take it apart and do it in a different key.

    at the end of the day music is whatever you make it, my lead playing has gone to crap again but I find joy in plaything/rhythm lead together with fills so that’s what I do. Added a second amp for stereo delay and it is out of this world
     
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    don't exclude the rhythm enthusiasts! tbh my main problem with solos in modern day have been its turned into a "let me add as many notes as possible"

    Finding a well crafted solo is hard. Jimi/Frusciante/Mayer / Clapton left a lot of space. So did SRV, but he was one of the few that could have bursts of shredding that fit the song in transitions
     
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    This is a great example of the above.
     
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    Well, season to taste anyway lol...

    Joe Satriani is probably my favorite shredder ever. He tends to have the melodic "verses" in between shred fests. Guy just wrecks it and makes it look so easy.

    Guthrie Govan is another guy with flawless tech imo:
     
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    I think I’ll go back to SRV version of “Little Wing”. I never get far in that one, either. Lol. See if I’m better than before. I noticed a definite improvement in my playing b/c of weight lifting hard and improved diet. It’s weird but most improvement for me in decades have occurred just recently. I’m more fluid and coordinated. My picking techniques have improved. I dunno. It’s weird.
     
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    Health = happy = endorphins = learning = happy = endorphins = better
     
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    Mastering hendrix inspired songs should be paramount for everyone like I said, little wing is the quintessential example of double stops. I thought it was too hard at first, but after spending so much time learning double stops after I've realized I should have put the time into it. I would highly highly recommend finding a time to jam with with one of the guys above. Its amazing how much you learn playing with other people


    Making big statements is frowned upon, but as a whole....Guthrie is probably the greatest improviser we've ever seen. Watching him share the stage with guys like petrucci just mooning over what hes going to do completely in awe of his playing says all you need to know. Even hans zimmer was going crazy



    Hans losing his sheet
     
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  18. Surfguy

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    I got my teeth cleaned and I'm even better. What's going on? ;)
     
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    Another great Texas guitarists that anyone who wants to play strat should study is Erik Johnson


    His music can be cold and too technical but his technique is outstanding.
     
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    It’s fun guessing which parts are SRV and which Erik Johnson
     

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