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Guess who else is re-writing their history books....

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewYorker, Sep 1, 2006.

  1. NewYorker

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    Care to define "whoring idiot"?

    Are you suggesting I have sex with people for money? Do you think that's an accurate description? Would you stand by that? Do answer wnes. I want to see you say "Yes, I think you are an idiot that sells yourself for sex and I stand by that description as right".

    You're really losing credibility on this board wnes. Remember, you were banned from here once before, If I remember Clutch made you wait until your emotions calmed down.

    I suggest you take a break from posting until you remember that the name of this board is "debate and discussion" not "berate and cuss-out"
     
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  2. NewYorker

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    True, but these guys are really upset. You can sense it with the reckless abandon they go after people who threaten their world.

    As for talking tough on the internet...I don't know, I think I am just acting the way I act in real life...and in real life people usually don't resort to name calling if I question their position. Some people hate my guts, but they just stay silent. I've never had people say these kinds of things to my face...and I doubt if our discussion was face to face the people here would have the courage to say the same things. I think they would be much more delicate.

    Then again, the only person on this BBS who has met me might have greater insight as to why that is....
     
  3. michecon

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    :D

    I'm not even sure he called you that, since it's not in what you quoted him. However, to save you from possible further embarassment, you should probably know whoring is not limited to sexual activity in meaning.

    It can mean a person considered as having compromised principles for personal gain (from The American Heritage® Dictionary), or pursue a faithless, unworthy, or idolatrous desire (from M-Webster). Well, you then need to know what idolastrous means: Given to blind or excessive devotion to something. “The religiosity of the [group] is self-righteous and idolatrous. It perceives no virtue in its opponents and magnifies its own” (Christopher Lasch).

    Hope it helps. Then, you are not sensitive, you always win, and your English is perfect
     
  4. RocketForever

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    LOL...macho talk there...your screenname now represents the image of a tough as nail badass in my online virtual world ... LOL (ok, ok, I know it's a bad joke :D). Amyway, there are so many big liars on the internet that it's not even funny. It is said that 50% of the people online who claim to be men are actually women, and vice versa. Therefore, you just can't take the images that virtual folks try to portray of themselves seriously. I am one of the many people who think that majority of the internet warriors who talk tough behind their monitors are nerds in real life. I am saying that in general and I hope you are not one. So please don't get defensive about it. :p

    Well, like I said, it's silly to judge the emotion of the other people by reading the alphabets displayed on your monitor. You can choose to perceive that they are upset and try to convince yourself that they really are. But the truth may well be they are actually having fun by getting on your nerves. Some posters have also 'acccused' you of being upset in this thread. So...are you upset? are they upset? is everyone upset? is anyone upset? is no one upset? Who knows? You are free to perceive that you are the only one who is not upset. And they are also free to perceive that you are actually the only one here who is upset. Everyone is at liberty to paint pictures in their minds based on their own perceptions in this online reality world. Isn't it great? :)
     
  5. NewYorker

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    One Chinese man defending another huh?
     
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    I was helping you out. One Asian man helping another would be more appropriate .
     
  7. NewYorker

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    Well the online world is fascinating that way, you can pretend to be anything if you want. I don't really feel the need to do so, but I don't judge those that do...afterall, this isn't real anyway you slice it.

    But are they upset..I do think so, there are certain you can pick up which don't strike as intentionally being driven to portray and image and such. Some people actually do get upset and take things personally - some people are just having fun. We all have our purposes....mine is just to explore certain things about human nature out of curiosity. But I may also have a naieve sense in believing in the best in people, and might try a bit too hard to bring out the best in people instead of just not caring. But we all have our flaws.
     
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    Regardless, the question still stands. Show me where it said that the Chinese are "re-writting history." Otherwise we are a little less honest with ourselves aren't we?
     
  9. NewYorker

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    More general at least. Thanks for your "help".
     
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    You are missing the point again, as usual. Whether someone is upset or not, or you are upset or not, plays no role in whether your point is right or wrong, if you had one. I don't see the necessity for you to be obsessed with that. Similarily, whether that's a Chinese man or Asian man or woman, has nothing no do with the value of his/her opinion, does it? Unless you view them differently, depending on who said that.
     
  11. NewYorker

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    What you don't get is that being right or wrong doesn't matter, because at the end of the day, there is no right or wrong. The difference between right and wrong is where you sit - it's not absolute. As an eastern person you of all people should understand that.

    The reason I point out "one chinese man helping another" is to show how you chinese posters are so defensive to the point were you feel it necessitates one defending the other....it's a like a wolkpack.
     
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    But do there opinions as non-Chinese matter in your mind whether it is right for the Japanese to whitewash their history and glorify their militarist past or can you not see beyond that you believe the Chinese are hypocrites so the whole issue is invalid?
     
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    Couldn't agree more. I will say it again I think it is wrong of the Chinese and Koreans to become violent over this and that the Japanese do have the right to revise their history and glorify their militarists past but tolerence and understanding is a two way street and has helpful as it might be for the rest of Asia to show Japan some tolerance its far more in Japan's own interests to show some sensitivity to the rest of Asia.

    I can see compromises on this issue. The Japanese can keep the Yasukuni Shrine and even the 14 class A war criminals just not officially visit them and be clear in their official education material that they were the agressors and not the victims or saviors of Asia in WWII

    This issue from what I understand in Japan this seems to be more of a narrow wedge issue being used by the LDP like things like stem cell research is in the US. From what I know most Japanese are either mildly supportive, apathetic or against it and its being driven by extremists.
     
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    Moral relativism or non-cognitivism is not Asian specialty, Nor forte. That small dose of relativism in Daoism and Zen is rather about perception not being able to change the truth. Doesn't moral realativism imply intrinsically that everyone is a hyporite? What are you making fuss of? And what does you moral relativism tells you about your own cognitive-bias, Mr. "I'm right"?



    Please do keep this up, since I increasingly find you entertaining. And I'm typing with full knowledge of this.
     
  15. NewYorker

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    Well the problem is that your perception is preventing you from seeing the truth. By claiming you are right you are denying the truth which is free from right or wrong. It's nor moral relativism....it's transcending the whole concept of morality.
     
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    I aggree that Japan should be more sensitive with it's history, but I also think that China should do the same and be more truthful about what it has done under Communism.
     
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    The truth is...you are right? :D
     
  18. NewYorker

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    But in order to establish if what Japan does is right or wrong, we need to find a more general concept = for example - that it is wrong for any country to white wash it's history.

    If that's the case, then we must support it's application of this concept to all nations...not just Japan.

    Otherwise, we are being unfair to the Japanese in my opinion.
     
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    Thank you for your teaching, Master New Yorker. Now I get it, right or wrong doesn't matter. But it matters a lot whether he/she is upset, or whether you are upset, according to your original post. Furthermore, it doesn't matter whether it's right or wrong, but it really matters if one Chinese man (presumably) agrees with another Chinese man. They can't happen to agree with each other, just like some Americans do. Once a Chinese man agrees with another, they must be so defensive to feel the urge to defend each other. Thank you again for your valuable lecture.
     
  20. NewYorker

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    You sound so bitter. That's what confounds me.
     

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