Grizzlies, Randolph getting closer to contract extension

So you think Rudy Gay hitting some game-winning shots is proof he can carry them to the NBA Finals?

I want some of what you have please. I respect Rudy for not relaxing once he signed for big money, but he is not an elite player. Neither is anyone else on the Grizzlies roster. Therein lies the problem.

 

Of course not.

You sound like a depressed rockets fan, quite frankly.

 

The difference seems to be, the rockets see a slightly over 500 team and thinks, we need major improvement, Memphis sees a slightly over 500 teams and thinks, this is our team of the future.

 

I'm not depressed. I figured Yao would go down early and the season has been mostly a drag. But outside of the Rockets, I watch a ton of NBA games.

As long as the Rockets are fighting for a playoff spot, I'm good. If/when they are eliminated, I will cheer on the Thunder and Bulls.

Aleron, you say it well. One's perception of his/her own reality is just as important as whatever that reality is. what has his own world.

 

Exactly, let's not rain on this guy's parade for the Grizzlies making the playoffs (that is unless we do rain on it by getting past them for the 8th spot :grin.

 

No the difference is that one's perception of a team that he doesn't even watch the team he is criticizing and then calling the guy that actually watches the games as a delusional fan after it was he, not the fan in question, that made a sweeping generalization. Then we he is called out on it, the fan is the one whose is ridiculous.

All I did was question your ill-informed assumption that the grizzlies have no impact player with proof that at least at the end of the games your assumption seems incorrect.

 

Your using Rudy Gay's last-second baskets as "proof" he is an impact player is misguided. He's not. If you want to believe otherwise, fine with me.

My premise is that the Grizzlies will not be a contender with the core players they have now. You've said nothing to disprove it. Iif you believe otherwise, please explain.

 

This. Regarding Bima's posts, I'm not quite sure why the Grizz are suddenly flush with all this money. Aren't they paying Rudy Gay the max? And their pg 9M a year? If they also pay Z-Bo say 12M a year I would have thought most of their capspace would be gone by then.

With Heisley, I find it ridiculous some people here are arguing he isn't a money-grubbing cheapskate. The Gasol trade was strictly speaking a salary dump, and according to their GM he chose the Lakers simply because they had the largest expiring contract in the L. While Heisley has a rep for keeping the players he likes (i.e. Battier), his team also cuts all corners just to make another buck, they have been known to keep their payroll intentionally low so they can "rent" out the space to teams wanting to get under the cap, they also sell their picks for cash and most damning of all, their owner tried to stiff his rookies out of a couple grand just because he couldn't resist saving 10% of a rookie salary.

With Gasol, I hope you're right and Memphis doesn't need him anymore, because I'd certainly want him on the rockets.

 

To clarify, I don't want to rain on what's parade because I understand the Grizzlies making the playoffs is a big deal. Just meant to comment on his post that signing Randolph and letting Gasol go (if that happens) would be a mistake IMO. If he goes to another team and develops further, oh brother.

I appreciate the fans of other teams that come to the NBA forum to discuss them.

 

Why would I try to disprove a sweeping generalization. Why don't I predict the lottery while I'm at it. A more intelligent and thoughtful question I may take a stab at, but you have yet to provide one.

But I will say that the grizzlies have beaten the thunder 3-1 in the series, ditto with Dallas, they split with the lakers and miami, their one and one against portland with a rubber later this year. Don't consider this proof, I'm not even trying to answer your question, but only trying to inform you of the records against top team, since you don't watch them. Not sure how much knowledge you have.

 

YOU DID say that the videos you posted argue that Rudy Gay can take a team to contender status....

 

No I didn't. I said that that the videos belie the notion that the grizzlies don't have any impact player.

But I want to continue with A_3PO. The grizzlies are the second youngest team in the nba. Usually teams that are younger get better they don't level out. But don't let this convince you. They are 2 years younger than the rockets and better than them already.

 

OF COURSE they have impact players...none of which can be a big impact on a championship team though. That's what A_3PO was saying.

 

And, I said that that was a sweeping generalization. Thanks for the trip down memory lane.

 

Oh, I forget the rule about making no conclusions about a team's future prospects, even when stating exactly why you believe them. I guess you can't read. Don't huff and puff at people just because they say something you don't like.

I never said I don't watch the Grizzlies, just not often. I said that to be completely honest. Of course, you know that but deliberately distorted it anyway. Grow up.

 

Which is exactly why I questioned you because I thought you were arguing they DO have a guy who can lead them to being a contender when you said the videos argue.

 

Yet you accepted A_3PO's much more ridiculous generalization, that didn't bother you one bit. Interesting.

 

Look guy, will you grow up and stop being defensive? It doesn't hurt my feelings when you compare the Grizzlies to the Rockets. That's your level, not mine. You make me laugh. If you think those comments will stop me from posting what you don't like, forget it. I'll make a point to post more.

Youth, by itself, doesn't prove much. Lot's of young teams don't get much better. The oldest guy on your squad is the best player. Will he get better or worse? When Z-Bo declines (which may happen the minute the ink is dry or over the summer), what then? The guy on the Grizzlies with the most upside from where he is now is Gasol IMO, but Z-Bo takes away from his touches and development.

Z-Bo
Rudy Gay
Mike Conley
OJ Mayo
Darrell Arthur

Who among that group will soar to elite status? None.

If the Grizzlies had a young superstud like Derrick Rose, Kevin Durant, Westbrook, John Wall or [nameaplayer], I would feel differently.

 

actually im guessing he was posting the video clips as an argument to these statements, since, hmmm i dont know, he posted the it with the clips.

The "have fun" ending was a nice douchey touch (or seems to be anyways) lol.
All the championship contender talk came later as both AP30 and What furthered their debate and various positions.

 

"Ridiculous generalization"? Aww, I'm hurt, tough guy.

You are a trip.

Why can't you just leave the bluster out like nuggets4, f4p, professorjay, etc who are members with other favorite/hometown teams?