Where do you think he's improved a ton? His stats are equal or down across the board, same with his advanced stats. He's less efficient than he was last year. Jalen Green even with his bad start has been just as good and he's just a rookie! Not seeing any improvement in a 3rd year is pretty concerning.
KPJ hasn't improved. And yeah LeBron said something nice about him... but LeBron also traded away half his team for Russell Westbrook. LeGM is not known for his player evaluation skills.
We've been patient long enough... 2 years of sucking with their little " talented project" in the leadership/offense initiator role is long enough... Next it's gonna be wait till this year's draft pick meshes with Green ... Then wait till we get the right coach and give him time for his system . By that time, parts will be moved .. We'll be the Sacremento Kings of the South... Just move Porter to SF or 6th man.. Resign Shroeder or sign Brunson or Tyus Jones to a reasonable deal ..Draft whomever in this year's draft... And let's get this **** popping! **** a emotional project !
I am sorry he was DRAFTED IN 2021 so he hasn't been in the NBA FOR 3 YEARS...The thing is everyone loves to pass judgment on someone when the team is losing, I can recall Mad Max did a whole lot worst then act like a immature child but the Rockets were winning then.
That was in the D league he played in.. You don't even know your Rockets history at ALL.. he was not in the Rockets line up in 2019 DO the math how old is he now? how many years of college or D league do you have to have before you can play in the NBA.. GEEZ
Aren’t we talking about Porter? The dude who was drafted by and played for Cleveland in 2019? Or am I mistaken?
Porter Jr is a shooting guard who can pass. His defense is average at best, although he has good potential on that end. He definitely has improved his 3 point shooting. He remains volatile, but he does try to fit in with JG. Porter Jr has the ability to take over the scoring role better than anyone else, but for short periods eg when he scored 19 points in a quarter in the Grizzlies win. I give him credit for taking a back seat vs the Blazers, when he could have gone off them. He could be a starter SG on a lottery bottom team, but he seems to be a sixth man 2 in the future. JG needs him now, but they might not be able to co-exist in the near future. The Rockets should reassess him at the trading deadline of the next season. All comments are welcome.
As long as he’s willing to come off the bench in that 6th man role and not be a distraction, there’s nothing wrong with holding onto him and re-evaluating at the trade deadline. But the questions is, can he be a professional, put his head down and continue to improve without becoming a distraction? The size of his next contract (whomever it’s with) certainly depends on it. Only the rockets know it having him on the roster is more of a liability than not. But I’ve seen too much evidence to the contrary and don’t think he’s worth it.
I’ve basically decided I want the dude, but not as a starting PG. He’s not good enough to beat out Jalen Green for the starting 2 either. So what’s left? He can get pretty good minutes as a backup combo guard 6th man, or he can maybe play some 3, but if he isn’t willing to do one of those two things he probably needs to move on. He’s young and talented enough to have a place in the league for a long time, but probably not at doing what he’s doing now. He needs to improve his overall game quite a bit, and he needs to mature exponentially before he’s a viable NBA starter at any position.
He is a problem child. He was kicked off his high school team, he was kicked off his college team and his first NBA team. There is a clear pattern and it has continued with the Rockets. He left in the middle of a game this year. He threw something at an assistant coach. He drug a woman by her hair in college… he had to be escorted out by security with the Cavaliers. Morning practice is optional for third year players… Lucas said it’s his choice but he should be there working on his game… He hasn’t really improved and everyone walks on egg shells because they don’t know which Kevin Porter they will get. He may be a really responsible and good person some day. He is smart and can be really caring… but by year three in the NBA, you have got to be better than he is as a professional. If they move the other malcontents in Wood and Schroeder, they can likely give Porter another year - but he hasn’t really shown improvement as a player and it will be sink or swim really soon…. and that’s assuming he doesn’t do something that doesn’t get him released quicker…. Giving up on the court, leaving the arena during a game, throwing food at teammates and being disruptive will weigh on teams and front offices.
He has been there working on his game just not all the time, and what does optional mean? I don't think he is a malcontent I just think he is high-strung, and it looks like a lot of people can't wait to get rid of him, that's cool I just think he has talent and has worked through some of his issues. If you don't think he has shown improvement as a player I have to think you have not been looking at him over the past 20 games and makes me think you have already decided it's not happening for him.
The below are his numbers (traditional and advance) broken down by month or before/after the break, besides averaging 1 less turnover per game, what exactly are the improvements? Advance Traditional
January and February almost everything is better he has dipped in March but those 2 months he got better in almost every category.
October, November and December is 21 games, January and February is 19 games, and March is 14 games. You can't exactly call this an improvement in his last 20 games if what you meant is the 19 games in the middle of the season is better than his first 21 games, and his last 14 games.
Wow this is really informative to have the data all laid out like this. I have to admit, my eye test was telling me he had improved through the season but was still not good enough to be our starting pg. this data clearly shows while he’s gotten more comfortable with the ball in his hands, he hasn’t really taken a big step. I think he’s playing out of position and it would be interesting to see what he can do off the bench with the 2nd unit…or we could just move on.
When you are struggling to stay in the league, and your coach tells you that he thinks you should be there - then you should probably be there, especially when you have severe baggage. [/QUOTE]I don't think he is a malcontent I just think he is high-strung, and it looks like a lot of people can't wait to get rid of him, that's cool I just think he has talent and has worked through some of his issues.[/QUOTE] He does have talent, and I don't know what type of person he will be going forward. I can only look at what his recent track record. I wouldn't have a big issue with him being on the team if the Rockets had a stronger culture but they don't. This is also a young team, so that is a concern. A team like the Heat or even the Rockets when they had Harden and Paul could handle it. I remember something Lenny Wilkens once said, he said a young team can have one knucklehead and be okay. Two knuckleheads and its a problem, and three knuckleheads and there will be a new coach. So if the Rockets get rid or Wood and don't bring back Schroeder they can probably give Porter another year.... I just get worried because I don't see how this ends all that well for the Rockets. By the time Porter is "good", assuming he ever becomes really good, he is going to be a free agent. Do you want to pay a lot of money for someone with his track record? How long is long enough to feel secure giving him 80-100 million? [/QUOTE]If you don't think he has shown improvement as a player I have to think you have not been looking at him over the past 20 games and makes me think you have already decided it's not happening for him.[/QUOTE] He has played better the second half of the season after being terrible the first half of the season, but overall for the full season he is about the same as his first two seasons and in the past he has had spans where he has played well and then dipped. If he plays this well the first half of next season then I am inclined to see it as more permanent. Unfortunately for Kevin, he doesn't get the typical maturation cycle that other people get because he is in the NBA. He may very well turnout to be a dependable and strong man but he isn't right now and in the NBA you only get a few years to show you can make it.
His defense has improved dramatically as well, but I am starting to think he does not have the bbiq to be a point guard. I’m really at a loss on where he belongs in a starting unit with Jaylen. He needs the ball in his hands to be effective and I don’t know if his rebounding and defense will be sufficient as a small forward. So even though I have been a big proponent for most of the season, I think he needs to be the sixth man of the year as a combo guard. Don’t know if his ego will allow it though.
