The refs said something like Bibby would have gotten the shot off even if they started the clock on the tip. I don't know, thats what they said on NBATV. Good for us though.
if Posey was the guy who tipped it. Then that's what he means, I believe. Glad to hear the Teddy Bears lost. Way to go Queens!
It's not like Sacramento didn't get screwed on a couple of calls(or non-calls) by the refs recently, so I guess they were due.
That's incorrect. Section IX-Time-In a. After time has been out, the game clock shall be started when the ball is legally touched by any player within the playing area of the court. b. On a free throw that is unsuccessful and the ball continues in play, the game clock shall be started when the missed free throw is legally touched by any player. c. If play is resumed by a throw-in from out-of-bounds, the game clock shall be started when the ball is legally touched by any player within the playing area of the court. d. If play is resumed with a jump ball, the game clock shall be started when the ball is legally tapped. ============================================== Over 82 games, the calls even out. I'm looking forward to when they favor Yao.
I guess the refs can't officiate that part of the play at the end of the game according to NBATV. Only the shot.
Sucks for the Grizz, but I can understand the refs' position. What are they going to do? Call for a do-over?
Uh..yeah. What that ref is saying is that if the King's clock operator decided not to EVER start the clock, there was nothing he could do about it. WTF? Bad enough we are playing with half a team but this was BS. oh yeah. Sac 27 FTs to the Grizz 11. Hard to win 5 on 8.
Good point - rox fans would have been pissed if that exscuse had allowed the jazz? (I don't remember...) to win that playoff game where the clock was started like 5 seconds late.... Was that in 94 or 95?
It was Game 4 in Utah in 1994. And it was more like 10 seconds late. I still can't believe that clock operator wasn't fired for that.
The refs did the correct, and right, decision. #1 the rules say you can only check whether the ball left the hand in time, not look at another aspect of the play (it was the correct call based on the rule) #2 IMO had the clock started when the ball hit Posey Bibby's shot it probably would not have been launched in time. The upward flutter of the ball IMO did probably take more than .6 or .7 of a second. However this kind of speculation is pretty weak to overturn a call. Further, and more important, on the previous play Sac clearly called the time out with close to 3 seconds left after a rebound of a miss by the Grizz. So they were cheated with the amount of time on the final play to start with, so if you deduct time from the Posey play you should add it back from the slow stoppage with the previous timeout. So in the end, I think it was the "right" or fair call, as well as the "correct"call. As far as the rest of MX's claim--biased refing for Sac, I can't comment b/c I was watching more of the Rockets game. But the end decision was the correct and right one. BTW, as a Rocket fan it was a great 1 minute span to watch the McGrady 3 followed by the Bibby 3 (love League Pass). For the Griz, had to be real painfull as they worked awefully hard and showed a lot of grit only to come up short do more to luck than anything. I just wish the Grizz would stop gunning for our 6th seed and take their 7th seed like men, so we can rest and be fresh for the playoffs. They are annoying buggers right now but maybe last night will start a trend.
They showed on Nba Fastbreak when the clock should have been started and Bibby clearly would not have gotten the shot off in time. Grizz got robbed, I guess I'm more concerned with catching the Queens then staving off the Grizz.
What is to check? The refs keep the time on the floor, that is how they reset the clocks in the game. The refs weren't doing their job. There is no way anyone is going to make me beleive that the home teams clock operator has more control of the end of games then the refs. n The refs took the ez way out. Imagine if this was game 7 of the finals, would this excuse hold up then?
But if you have the last few seconds of game tape you will see Sac should have had more time for their last shot in the 1st place. They had the rebound and clearly signaled TO with like 3 seconds but the "home clock operator" only managed to stop it at like 1.4 or whatever. Tit for tat I say.
ahh i didn't see the timeout right before so maybe it did even out on who got screwed by the clock operator. i was trying to flip back and forth on league pass and i kept hoping the sac/mem timeout would hurry up and end so i could watch the 1.3 seconds and get back to the rockets but ours ended up ending first so like DS said you got to see tmac hit a 3 and then follow it up with bibby just a few seconds later. pretty cool. as for reviewing it, assuming they can't look at something like the tip and overturn it then there was really nothing they could do. however, when the ref said "a tip takes 0.3 seconds" i still couldn't believe it. i suppose if it was tipped, went 50 feet in the air, and landed he'd say that only takes 0.3 seconds as well. he clearly seemed like he thought he was right and fratello was being a jerk about it and he just said "game's over" all high and mighty like and walked off but he came off looking like the idiot, imo. still, what a shot.
