You can stop it when it interferes with international matters of security. It happens all the time. Furthermore when someone has insider knowledge such as the classified information regarding Iraq and uses it to profit by making a deal, then it is illegal and can be stopped, or at least punished after the fact. The deal was already in place, and the Kurds were party to it. At least that is my understanding. I'm not sure of all the particulars and loopholes in the agreements.
We don't know enough about it...and I would like to know more about it...from a neutral source. If you find anything more one it, you should put it in it's own thread.
Very Scary Cause. . .what if *they* .. .the people who live there. . . don't *Want* it? do we FORCE democracy on them? Rocket River
I do not espouse the neo-conservative agenda. I only am telling people what it is. I infact protested against the war before we invaded and was sadly disappointed that we did go in.
Says you? Bush? Its their country . . . .If they choose tyranny . .it is on them shall we dictate to everyone . .in every country every country has a minority in it. . . that wants some autonomy Why should the Kurds get autonomy . . . Should we go into every country and help every minority carve themselves out a peice of it? Wanna start at home? Rocket River
because democracy is suppose to be liberation from tyranny. Tyranny is what Iraq had before...if we are to establish Iraq as a democracy, that democracy will be a sham and fall apart if it's actually just another form of tyranny on the different people of Iraq.
Actually the war in Iraq is all about you NewYorker ~ you are the center of the universe around which we all orbit.
No no....I am not the center of your universe....please, find something in your life that's greater than me. It can be god, or a figure from history, or your wife, father, etc. But you shouldn't elevate anyone so high.
Then why don't we change the government of Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, etc as well? What about France, Japan, Germany, etc? They are not true democracy then because they don't try to impose democracy on other countries?
I am surprised that two pages of posts were spent on a complete idiot like NewYorker. Live and learn I guess.
What are you talking about? No one is saying a democracy has to impose democrocy on other nations, or suggesting we change the gov't of Saudia Arabia et al. The whole point of the neo-conservatives was that they figured if you made Iraq a democracy, than the other surrounding states would see how great Iraq was as a democracy and they would become ones too.
True Democracy is the people choosing for themselves if they choose Tyranny . . .that is on them Rocket River
Yeah, what if China thinks we are under the tyranny of Bush, does that give them the right to liberate us?
I opposed the Iraq War as much as the next guy but even I think this is silly. I seriously doubt that the people of Cambodia are responsible for Pol Pot's brutal regime or the warlords of Somalia that are ravaging the country. It's not on them for those regimes and I do believe in a level of humanitarian relief even through military means. Opposition to iraq shouldn't equate to isolationism. We just need to be a hell of a lot smarter in terms of how we choose to use our military and how we engage in diplomacy. The tools are fine, they've just been horribly used by the administration.
