I love that city....check out the USS Constitution too....the oldest free floating commissioned naval vessel in the world. I think she was launched in 1797......and is undefeated in battle. DD
those are some good pictures. why are people comparing this to our pre-revolutionary actions against the British? they are only just barely comparable, otherwise completely different situations. I mean, look at picture #8. Now, hopefully, that police officer turned out okay, but that looks pretty nasty. As has been pointed out many times int his thread, there is a difference between rioting and protesting....and, if you do get to the point where you do have to riot, there is a difference between property destruction and hurting other people.
A revolution is a revolution. If the American Revolution had taken place in this age, we would be doing the same thing. Thats why im comparing it.
No, it's not. That's using symantics to ignore the point. Forget arguing about whether this is a revolution or not, not all "revolutions" are created equal. you have to look at this case based on the facts of this case.
Tell that to Martin Luther King. This is real life we're talking about, not some Rage Against the Machine song.
Ok so do you think in this age we would be throwing tea off the ships? the only reasonable way the "British colonies" could make a change is by... oh i dont know... Starting riots, protests and eventually a war? If you take this Greek riots back to the 1700 they would be throwing tea off too. Your forgetting the LA riots not too long ago. people burned cars, protested and caused a riot. And Martin Luther King was a guy who ****ing supported peaceful protesting, are you really going to use him as a counter-example to my argument when MLK was 30-40 years ago? Im talking about NOW, so much has changed since then, I dont consider it the same age
no we wouldn't, people would be scared of being labeled a terrorist/loyalist by those in power. I don't like the direction this thread is going. Someone make a vspan joke! quick!
Hoa, I don't think the Greeks are revolting. Are they trying to throw the government out? Revolution is a pretty big scare word. Mob burning cars is not in the category of revolution.
Vspan told the rioting mob, "I was the Tmac of revolution back in Houston, revolted against the capitalist pig in Van Gundy"
Yea, but MLK could've rioted. But he didn't. People should realize that sometimes, you don't really need all the violence. Btw, at the pictures, I find it funny there's the photos with the hippies holding up flowers juxtaposed with the riot stuff.
And the LA Riots didn't really accomplish anything. MLK, Gandhi, and as a more recent example, the Tianamen Square protests were so much louder because they choose to be nonviolent. "What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy?"
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Hrm, the Greeks ended up actually passing the austerity bill. I wonder if this latest violent reaction is as bad as it will get.
It does; because unlike over here, alot of these people are working, adult and middle-class: they're a large and productive enough part of society that not working and protesting has actual cost to the economy and political legitimacy. Also consider that as monied and detached as the lobbying and political process is over here, there are no PACs or think tanks over there they can cut a check to and at least indirectly affect the process, there probably isn't as well mobilized and diverse a news media or legal system, compared to us it's probably just disorganized and institutionally corrupt. Somewhat for the better, most of us over here really, truly only believe in doing our job, winning trophies and getting paid. Just like pro sports and pop culture, all of our other political and religious stuff is just venting and socializing, and the people who have time to fully and honestly committ to it are either economically secure or willfully unproductive.
All of that is well and good, them protesting without a doubt sends a message and halts the economy (like they need more of that), what the others are trying to say is, burning some random chicks car helps your goals in 0 ways. I put an anarchy symbol on a statue! = 0 accomplished.
