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Greece (V-Span) vs. Spain, 6:30 a.m, Sunday Sept 3

Discussion in 'NBA Draft' started by Mordo, Sep 2, 2006.

  1. Old Man Rock

    Old Man Rock Contributing Member

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    The Gun represents your PENIS.
     
  2. Texas Stoke

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    thanks freud...you're awesome.
     
  3. Old Man Rock

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    Your quite welcome. Oh and the other person represents JVG.

    Beating your gun on his face... :eek:
     
  4. Amel

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    lol

    I just woke up

    good I didn't see the game, I probably wouldn't sleep for two days, haha

    Looks like Greece and our man VSpan lost it when they really needed it

    and I thought they will be tottaly motivated against Spain....

    did Gasol play? what happened? a 20 point diff is really a shocker to me!

    Oh well, should be a lesson for the greeks....hopefully it will make VSpan understand the pressure of playing 82 games in less then 5 months!

    :D
     
  5. Amel

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    lol

    I guess thats what a typical texan dreams, hehe
     
  6. Texas Stoke

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    OMR, The Gun could represent Power.

    If there is one comforting fact in all this, it's that I did not have morning wood. Or did I? dammit I can't remember. Oh no, I woke up with morning wood! :eek:
     
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  7. Dr of Dunk

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    It's a strange world outside the NBA... ;)
     
  8. Flamescreen

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    Well, to sum it up, Spain is a TEAM without Gasol, we always had problems against them(25-11 before this one), they were a better team, played huge defence and anticipated our every move, having solutions. Tremendous scouting.

    I don't think our difference is that big though. The players were stressed of the press who bugged them last two days constantly and prolly didn't have much sleep or weren't focused cause they were excited with the possibility of a gold.

    Good job, Spain! Well deserved title! :)
     
  9. lalala902102001

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    I think this game exposed Spanoulis' weaknesses. He is just not a good shooter. Like I said before, one lucky game (against team USA) does not make a career. He really needs to work on his shot to be effective in the NBA, especially on this Rockets team. Remember this is only international 3 point line, which is 2 feet shorter than the NBA three.
     
  10. rocketsmetalspd

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    Ok, now that the FIBA World Championships are over and done with lets get ready to welcome the NBA season. I for one I am thrilled to get this thing going. I believe that V-Span will prove all the nay sayers wrong and will be a great addition to the Rockets. I also believe that there will be trade in the pre-season to bring us PF. Thanks for the memories Juwon :D
     
  11. SamFisher

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    Just like it was stupid for everybody to engage in tulip-mania on Spanoulis on Friday and yesterday and declare him descended from Mount Olympus to walk among us.........it's equally silly to write him off after one game, or even one tournament.
     
  12. Old Man Rock

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    Trust me I am a professional dream interpreter and the gun definitely represents your penis. And the fan is Van Gundy. Yes it is true...
    GREEK FAN WITH A GUN = VAN GUNDY

    I normally charge $500 for my services but since you are a long time Clutch Fan who I have always agreed with I will interpret it for you free.

    I was a Detective investigating (Rocket beat reporter interviewing) Van Gundy who was pissed off because they lost again and as I was leaving the media room he chased me down and with a monkey wrench grip jerked my pee pee and shot me in the right side but i got a hold of him and yanked my pee pee and shot back at him but there were no more bullets (juice) so I proceeded to beat his face with it and then I couldn't get an ambulance (bust a nut) cause i didn't know where the hell I was (can be interpreted as not know ing you had latent homosexual tendencies) so I just sat there losing wood but thankfully I woke up in time before I lost my hard on in my sleep. :eek:
     
  13. tiger0330

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    Now that the FIBA WCs are over I beg to differ with the those that are all over this kid V-Spans jock strap. He ranked 45th among all players in PPG average, he averaged more turnovers than assists, had less than 2RB per game and his 3pt % was atrocious from the shorter international 3 pt line. He does drive to the basket and gets his fair share of and ones, is an active defender but if you want the Rox to really improve this season wish for a healthy Bobby Sura who would contribute more than V-Span ever will this season. I doubt he takes the starters job from Rafer as well, Rafer is a better ball handler and distributer of the ball than V-Span and a better shooter as well.

    Here are V-Spans cumulative numbers from the Fiba.

    2pt % 3pt % FT % Reb A TO S
    2/4.3 46.5 1.2/4.7 25.5 4/4.7 87 1.7 1.33 2 1.2
     
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    Fascinating, I guess Five 0 will know where to look if JVG ever suffers a brutal beating from a discontented rabid fan. :)
     
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    who the hell is any good on Spain other than Calderon...

    sorry haven't seen any of their games
     
  16. KeepKenny

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    Navarro played great, as did Garbajosa (sp?), who will be on the raptors next year. Those are the big names, but everyone played well. Even Pau's brother Mark made a contribution and ate up some space out there.
     
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    If you've read any of my posts you know I'm all about the stats but...

    He did STEP UP against team USA which implies despite international rules he can play vs. some of the best NBA players and be successful. I think he makes a better 2 than a 1. His 3PT shooting is suspect but he seems proud enought to correct that over time just like Sura did.

    When we see some preseason games that will give us a good idea of how he will mesh. One thing is for certain - we definately know the slashing style compiments us well.
     
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    My assessment is based on the entire turnament and what I read about Spanoulis in Euro games rather than this one game. The guy is just not a good shooter. He's never been a good shooter in Europe and he shot 30% in this turnament. In Europe his strength has been that he's able to break down defense and get to the basket. He's very good in pick n' roll plays. However, I'm not sure that he can get to the hoop as easily in the NBA as in Europe once the quicker NBA perimeter defenders learn about him. Besides, on this Rockets team, with JVG's offensive schemes, there is less room in the middle for him to penetrate. Hence Spanoulis has to work on his outside shooting. He must become at least a 35% shooter from NBA threes to be effective on this Rockets team. Otherwise he will not see a lot of playing time next season.
     
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    unbelievable...we went from crowing Vspan as our savior a few nights ago, to making him nothing but a benchwarmer for us.....the WC didn't show me much...its a completely differnt game when he gets here and we have nothign to measure him agaisnt...we'll just have to wait.....
     
  20. Old Man Rock

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    Breaking down Chris Paul and hinrich, blowing past Joe Johnson and Battier, jumping out in front of Lebron and wade, running the pick n roll too perfection and overall playing good hard nosed defense against a group of all star NBA players didn't show you anything?

    Granted it is not the NBA game, ISO's don't work against zones and with the wide lane the banging down low game is mostly negated. But those things aren't what Vspan excels at. So yes most of what he does will transfer. I would go so far as to say what he does best will work better with man to man defenses like the NBA than all the fiba zones. It's partly why he struggled so much against Spain.

    Oh and by the way his stats against Spain weren't nearly as bad as they looked. He still played a decent game defensively. He really wasn't involved with the offense as much as it looked. He only took 6 shots the first 3 1/2 quarters. And one of those was a late pass and rushed shot to avoid a violation and another was an inbounds play under the basket where he was blocked but looked like he was fouled and the other was a blocked 3 point attempt. The rest of his shots came after the 6 minute mark in the 4th quarter when they were down 36-62 and desperation shots were mostly in order. Even then he still looked determined to get Greece back in the game. Most of the Greece team already had that loser's face but not VSPAN he was determined even when it was over. Good or bad that's what I saw. Spain seemed to have 2 goals on defense, not allow Baby Shaq to back down low and not to let Vspan drive to the goal. Oh and to play solid zone defense.

    So my assesment is different than yours. The WC's showed me alot, Vspan clearly has skills that will transfer to the NBA. I have never thought he was ready to jump in and start for our team. He is clearly a work in progress. His 3 point shot needs major work. IMO he rushes it as he rushes most everything. It's like he only knows one speed fast and plays that way the whole game.

    I have heard many NBA players say that the hardest thing to adjust to was the speed of the game. They had to learn to pace themselves and learn when to slow down and when to speed up. So Vspan will have to adjust. He will need time and practice and real gametime experience. He will definitely have sucky games and will make alot of mistakes. He absolutely must learn to hit an open 3 point shot with some consistency and play a little more in control, but he plays with so much heart and fire and he has real skills and if somehow JVG gives him a chance he will get better. And he has the potential to bring something to the Rockets that we were lacking last year and that is heart and confidence and a desire to win and never say die.
     
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