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Grading the roster

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by K-Low_4_Prez, Feb 29, 2016.

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how would you grade the roster outside of James and Dwight?

  1. A- great talent, just bad coaching

    14 vote(s)
    7.3%
  2. B- solid talent with a hole or two

    34 vote(s)
    17.8%
  3. C- average

    52 vote(s)
    27.2%
  4. D- glaring weaknesses

    75 vote(s)
    39.3%
  5. F- they are all scrubs

    16 vote(s)
    8.4%
  1. Buzzlite

    Buzzlite Member

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    Our system relies on shooters knocking down shots, as said before our roster on talent alone is solid on paper, but our system stretches players out of their comfort zone...Our stars need to be surrounded by deadeye shooters or we need to find a new offense
     
  2. Nimo

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    I'm curious to know who are the great talents that 7 of you know of?
     
  3. awc713

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    lets just sign michael beasley and win the west alrady
     
  4. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    We added a healthy Beverley, Ty Lawson (in exchange for non-NBA players), an improved Capella, healthier Dwight Howard and possibly Motiejunas to a team that went to the WCF. The talent is level is "solid with a hole or two."
     
  5. kwakmeister

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    I saw the first answer and voted A because I've been saying that all year. Then after I voted I read answer B and that is actually more accurate lol Ahh well.
     
  6. kjayp

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    We have the talent - they simply are not utilized properly...

    D12 #4 ALL TIME on fg % - gets <9 shots a game... despite showing he can still go off for 28 or 36 points...

    Harrell is always in the + for his court time - can't get consistent minutes... and its our weakest position...

    yet Brewer gets his minutes....

    JBB's rotations suck and he let's Harden do whatever he wants - unchecked... a recipe for disaster...
     
  7. desi tmac91

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  8. Mr. Clutch

    Mr. Clutch Member

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    The talent is there to make run like last year but as Morey has alluded to, guys aren't playing as well as they can, and as Jet alluded to, the chemistry is terrible.
     
  9. J.R.

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    Average individual talent. Terrible working-as-a-team talent. Terrible 'chemistry'. Terrible fit.

    Daryl: Screw chemistry, screw fit, acquire the best talent possible, regardless of "fit", hope it comes together!

    The 16 teams ahead of Houston in league standings

    WARRIORS
    Stephen Curry
    Klay Thompson
    Harrison Barnes
    Draymond Green
    Andrew Bogut
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    Shaun Livingston
    Leandro Barbosa
    Andre Iguodala
    Brandon Rush
    Marreese Speights
    Festus Ezeli
    Anderson Varejao
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    Ian Clark
    Kevin Looney
    James Michael McAdoo

    SPURS
    Tony Parker
    Danny Green
    Kawhi Leonard
    LaMarcus Aldridge
    Tim Duncan
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    Patty Mills
    Jonathon Simmons
    Manu Ginobili
    Kyle Anderson
    Boris Diaw
    David West
    -------------
    Andre Miller
    Rasual Butler
    Matt Bonner
    Boban Marjanovic

    CAVS
    Kyrie Irving
    J.R. Smith
    LeBron James
    Kevin Love
    Tristan Thompson
    -------------
    Matthew Dellavedova
    Mo Williams
    Iman Shumpert
    Richard Jefferson
    Channing Frye
    Timofey Mozgov
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    Jordan McRae
    James Jones
    Sasha Kaun

    THUNDER
    Russell Westbrook
    Andre Roberson
    Kevin Durant
    Serge Ibaka
    Steven Adams
    -------------
    Cameron Payne
    Dion Waiters
    Randy Foye
    Anthony Morrow
    Kyle Singler
    Nick Collison
    Enes Kanter
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    Josh Huestis
    Mitch McGary

    RAPTORS
    Kyle Lowry
    DeMar DeRozan
    DeMarre Carroll
    Luis Scola
    Jonas Valanciunas
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    Cory Joseph
    Delon Wright
    Terrence Ross
    James Johnson
    Patrick Patterson
    Bismack Biyombo
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    Norman Powell
    Bruno Caboclo
    Anthony Bennett
    Lucas Nogueira

    CLIPPERS
    Chris Paul
    J.J. Redick
    Wes Johnson
    Blake Griffin
    DeAndre Jordan
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    Austin Rivers
    Jamal Crawford
    Paul Pierce
    Jeff Green
    Luc Mbah a Moute
    Cole Aldrich
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    Pablo Prigioni
    Alex Stepheson
    C.J. Wilcox
    Branden Dawson

    GRIZZLIES
    Mike Conley
    PJ Hairston
    Matt Barnes
    Zach Randolph
    Brandan Wright
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    Mario Chalmers
    Lance Stephenson
    Tony Allen
    Vince Carter
    JaMychal Green
    Chris Andersen
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    Jordan Adams
    James Ennis
    Jarrell Martin
    Marc Gasol

    CELTICS
    Isaiah Thomas
    Avery Bradley
    Jae Crowder
    Amir Johnson
    Jared Sullinger
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    Marcus Smart
    Evan Turner
    Jonas Jerebko
    Kelly Olynyk
    Tyler Zeller
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    Terry Rozier
    RJ Hunter
    James Young
    Jordan Mickey

    HEAT
    Goran Dragic
    Dwyane Wade
    Luol Deng
    Chris Bosh
    Hassan Whiteside
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    Josh Richardson
    Gerald Green
    Joe Johnson
    Justise Winslow
    Josh McRoberts
    Amar'e Stoudemire
    -------------
    Tyler Johnson
    Udonis Haslem

    HAWKS
    Jeff Teague
    Kyle Korver
    Kent Bazemore
    Paul Millsap
    Al Horford
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    Dennis Schroder
    Kirk Hinrich
    Tim Hardaway Jr.
    Thabo Sefolosha
    Mike Scott
    Mike Muscala
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    Lamar Patterson
    Tiago Splitter
    Walter Tavares

    MAVS
    Deron Williams
    Wes Matthews
    Chandler Parsons
    Dirk Nowitzki
    Zaza Pachulia
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    J.J. Barea
    Raymond Felton
    Devin Harris
    David Lee
    Dwight Powell
    Charlie Villanueva
    Salah Mejri
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    Justin Anderson
    Jeremy Evans
    JaVale McGee

    BLAZERS
    Damian Lillard
    C.J. McCollum
    Al-Farouq Aminu
    Ed Davis
    Mason Plumlee
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    Brian Roberts
    Gerald Henderson
    Allen Crabbe
    Mo Harkless
    Noah Vonleh
    Meyers Leonard
    -------------
    Pat Connaughton
    Luis Montero
    Cliff Alexander
    Chris Kaman

    PACERS
    George Hill
    Monta Ellis
    Paul George
    Myles Turner
    Ian Mahinmi
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    Rodney Stuckey
    Joe Young
    C.J. Miles
    Solomon Hill
    Jordan Hill
    LaVoy Allen
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    Chase Budinger
    Glenn Robinson
    Rakeem Christmas
    Shayne Whittington

    HORNETS
    Kemba Walker
    Courtney Lee
    Nicolas Batum
    Marvin Williams
    Al Jefferson
    -------------
    Jeremy Lin
    Jeremy Lamb
    Troy Daniels
    Tyler Hansbrough
    Frank Kaminsky
    Cody Zeller
    Spencer Hawes
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    Jorge Gutierrez
    Aaron Harrison
    Michael Kidd-Gilchrist

    BULLS
    Derrick Rose
    Jimmy Butler
    Mike Dunleavy
    Taj Gibson
    Pau Gasol
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    Aaron Brooks
    E'Twaun Moore
    Tony Snell
    Doug McDermott
    Bobby Portis
    Nikola Mirotic
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    Justin Holiday
    Cameron Bairstow
    Cristiano Felicio
    Joakim Noah

    PISTONS
    Reggie Jackson
    Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
    Tobias Harris
    Marcus Morris
    Andre Drummond
    -------------
    Steve Blake
    Reggie Bullock
    Stanley Johnson
    Anthony Tolliver
    Aron Baynes
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    Spencer Dinwiddie
    Jodie Meeks
    Darrun Hilliard
    Justin Harper
    Joel Anthony

    ROCKETS
    James Harden
    Patrick Beverley
    Trevor Ariza
    Josh Smith
    Dwight Howard
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    Ty Lawson
    Jason Terry
    Corey Brewer
    Terrence Jones
    Donatas Motiejunas
    Clint Capela
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    Sam Dekker
    Montrezl Harrell
    KJ McDaniels
     
  10. Texanasiafan

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    The shlt is too deep and you won't be able to reach the bottom of it even with a 10 feet pole.
     
  11. aelliott

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    I asked this question in an earlier thread:

    Who are our two best offensive players other than Harden?

    Who are our 3 best defensive players?

    Now compare your answers to their counterparts on the better teams in the league.

    The fact is that we have several players who's strength is suppose to be defense but for whatever reason they haven't been very good defensively this season. As a result we are playing multiple rotation players that are average to below average on both sides of the ball. That's a problem.
     
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    http://sb.gg/tqH4
     
  13. K-Low_4_Prez

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    I think my biggest complaint about the roster is the lack of consistent shooters... Moreyball can work but not with guys that are just bad shooters and mediocre defenders.

    And I think our passing needs to be improved James is a great distributor but you need someone else like a pau gasol to space the floor from the inside with his passing from the post.
     
  14. oakdogg

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    Everybody keeps pining away for all our role players to be pure shooters. What is the problem with this team? Offense or defense?? As cool as it is to think of pure shooters on the offensive end, Steve Novak and Troy Daniels are not going to get it done on the defensive end. We cannot afford to pay for role players that are knock-down shooters AND decent on defense. Only way you do that is if Dwight gets paid like Duncan, and that is not going to happen. Golden State and San Antonio have a BIG advantage, b/c they have top players getting paid well under market value.
     
  15. Roxoff

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    C. When you float around .500 all season you're the definition of average.
     
  16. SkareKrow

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    Wasnt a fan of bringing back Bev, Brewer, JET. Need to see more out of Capela, unless he's been injured he should be better. TJones isnt very good. DMo has been hurt. And not a fan of Dekker pick so need to see something from him. Like James and Dwight. JBB isnt ready. But theyre still the Rockets so I watch/root/hope.
     
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    Pesky Pomeranian!?? I LOLed hard at that one. Funny but hits home pretty hard.

    Rockets need to play Ariza at SG and bring in a true shooter/3&D wing. Maybe Putney could play that role. Or a PG that is a younger version of Terry. Lawson should be amazing coming off the bench but the guy is a shade of himself. Give him a drink already or send him packing. Rather have McCallum right now.

    Rockets lack of perimeter & transition D is as much to blame as the lack of offense (when Harden sits). Maybe need to feed the post and play more PnR again. Dwight doesn't even get touches when Harden is catching his breath on the bench, SMH. Instead its ISO for TJones or Ariza. Crazy.
     
  19. Phillyrocket

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    Hard to say since there was so much regression:

    Lawson was a 16/10 PG who now looks like trash.

    Capela was a developing big man with good hands, hops and defense who now looks like he hit a wall.

    Jones was showing great talent but just fluke injuries and now just looks like trash.

    DMo flashed amazing talent in the post and improved shooting from deep but can't get healthy.

    Beverly as a backup would be above average but as a starter who's regressed defensively...blech

    Brewer started off godawful but has been positive in the last month or so. About the same as last year maybe slightly worse.

    Terry and Smith have been much worse. Thornton is now gone and KJ and Harrell are glued to the bench.

    Ariza seems about the same.

    In summary we are getting next to nothing from the role players other than Ariza and just recently Brewer.
     
  20. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Team can't shoot the ball well, doesn't rebound, gives up a lot of assists, easy buckets, doesn't pressure 3 point shooters. And that's just our defense.

    There is no way a team with only 3 or 4 guys capable of hitting a jump shot consistently on the entire team is going to be a competitor in today's league.

    Harden, Beverly, Terry, and Ariza are the only one who can nail a shot with any accuracy. Then you have Capela and Howard who can do damage inside but only if the previous 4 gets them the ball.

    Everyone else is just deadweight. Except Dmo maybe.
     

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