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Got Two Speeding Tickets on the Same Stop!

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Rocketman1981, Jan 18, 2012.

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  1. rezdawg

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    You can die at any speed...but the higher the speed, the greater the risk of damage.

    Im guessing if we did a poll...there is a higher ratio of deaths when accident speeds occur at 90 mph as opposed to 50 mph.

    I dont think anyone is denying that deaths cant happen at 60 mph, but what everyone is saying is that the higher the speed, the greater the danger.
     
  2. justtxyank

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    It's a good thing that every car on the road doesn't go 75 then.

    You still got the intent of the question.

    Also, maybe people should go the speed limit to mitigate danger instead of whining about getting tickets.
     
  3. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Except, in this example, it is the cars going 75 that are driving dangerously based on the law.
     
  4. CCorn

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  5. Scarface281

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    Depends on the flow of traffic and what lane you're in. I'll be in a line of cars going 75, and cars will zoom past on the left periodically going 80+. Depends. If traffic flow is 65, then no, BUT if no one is in the left lane, and a car is just on it, then I can't get mad at that...
     
  6. Yonkers

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    Going 90 when everyone is going 60 is more dangerous than going 65 when everyone is going 60. All else being equal. I get that.
    But:
    1. The average speed people are driving on the freeway is not 60... the speed limit is 65 so most people are probably going 70-75. I also get that going 90 is more dangerous than 70-75.
    2. I submit that driving 90, while being deeply aware that you're going fast and paying close attention to your surroundings is a hell less dangerous than someone going only 50 mph but are texting, etc.
    3. We have people in this thread wishing he goes to jail or even die. Die. Seriously? Do you feel the same when you see someone texting or using their phone while driving? Have you ever done those things? Should someone wish you die?

    Overall, I think there are many more dangerous/bad things getting done in the world and most people are overreacting to this.
     
  7. across110thstreet

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    no hands-free laws or even texting laws in Texas yet?
     
  8. Yonkers

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    Only in school zones are they banned.
     
  9. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    90 plus?

    The cop should have pulled a gun on you. Let me guess, not a minority?
     
  10. Cohete Rojo

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    Some members have a problem understanding positive correlation: the faster over the speed limit you go the more likely you are to be involved in an accident (that may not be positive but it. I tell my brother if he gets a good amount of sleep and studies an extra six (6) hours a week, his grades will improve. He just doesn't believe me because he cannot comprehend the power of statistics: both the good and the bad.

    To be perfectly honest, you could be going the speed limit and be written for a moving violation by a uniformed officer. It is all based on conditions: were you tailgating, was there heavy traffic, did you signal, was it raining, highwater, dense fog, etc. You must adjust your driving habits to the roadway conditions. I know this from my defensive driving course and from being a frequent driver of rural and urban roadways.

    For example, if you are in the right lane on the freeway go slow not fast, if you are in the left lane on a freeway go fast not slow. All too often people build up a type of quasi-intellectual common sense so when given just a bit of knowledge they abuse it. My brother tells me he doesn't need to get more sleep or study more even if his grades are bad because he has a friend that gets less sleep, studies less and gets better grades. Oh, brother!
     
  11. dmc89

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    Some posters are clearly overreacting here. Going 90mph or even 186mph is not as end-of-the-world dangerous if:

    -road conditions are safe. Flat, empty, dry, visibility for miles i.e. this stretch of US 90 in West Texas.

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    -the driver has been trained well. Someone who knows to stay in their lane, not text/call/eat while driving, to only speed in short bursts, and not "crash into the concrete barrier."

    -the car being driven is capable. Think Porsche 911s, AMG Mercedes, BMW M3, etc. Going close to 100mph in a budget car like a Civic might seem very intense, but it's different when driving a high performance vehicle.

    The posters who are freaking out are probably parents fearing for their children and others. They must think Rocketman1981 was doing this on I-10 inside the loop during rush hour traffic. Their concerns would be justified if that were the case. But it's not clear what kind of area the OP was speeding in.

    If someone wants to speed over 140mph for a few seconds in the aforementioned conditions, I say live and let live. I don't wish them death. They are only a risk to themselves.
     
  12. DonkeyMagic

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    i don't get why you feel the need to make point #2. I mean, texting/being distracted while driving period is not safe so why compare it to someone driving 90 and paying attention?

    Plus, you are assuming the person going 90 is aware of their surrounds and also not being distracted...that's a pretty big assumption. Especially considering OP didn't see the cop twice, so he obviously wasnt very aware.

    #3...yes, they should go to jail/be fined. Death is for repeat offenders.
     
  13. DonkeyMagic

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    but i don't think OP was completely alone on the road, that's the point.

    I don't think anyone cares if you are in the middle of no where, with no one around if they go over 90. It's the fact that they are doing it in/around the other drivers.
     
  14. Cohete Rojo

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    Wildlife hazards. Road Debris. Road Damage. Etc.
     
  15. ima_drummer2k

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    He said in the OP that he was on I-10. He's posting on a Houston-based website, so it's natural to assume he was in or around the Houston area. Of course, if he's going to "Almu" us and never give us any details, we'll never know.

    If he was only speeding in short bursts, how did he get 2 tickets in 2 different places? And it sounds like you're assuming that accidents never happen if people are careful. There's a reason why they're called 'accidents'. No one is going to drive into a concrete barrier on purpose.

    Possibly, but until we get more details, we'll never know. Something tells me he wasn't driving a Porsche though..

    What a scathing indictment!

    Accidents happen all the time and not just inside the loop during rush hour. Just read the paper on Sunday mornings.

    I don't wish anyone death, which is why I prefer they don't drive 140mph anywhere but on a race track.
     
  16. Yonkers

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    My point in bringing up #2 is there are more dangerous things to do while driving than just be driving 90 mph. To wish someone death for doing so is ridiculous unless you're wishing for anyone who talks on the phone while driving to die. Which you proceeded to do... so I don't have an argument against you anymore.
     
  17. Scionxa

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    You can address me directly if need be. I've already stated that my comment was rude and uncalled for.

    I don't do those two things mentioned at all, but I am guilty of it in the past, and if someone wants to wish death on me, that's cool.
     
  18. IBTL

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    how long before people in the police state that is texas accept this is simply a revenue placement for no state income tax?
     
  19. justtxyank

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    Look, if he wants to speed he can speed. It doesn't make tickets BS or cops pigs though if you break the law because it "feels good man" and you get caught.

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