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Got to find minutes for Snyder

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by KALIKULI, Oct 14, 2007.

  1. Yaozer

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    I thought Kirk "I don't know how to pass" Snyder was only on a 1 year contract when we signed him last year.

    I was actually excited about him last year. He did fairly well for us before his hand/wrist injury that pretty much ended him career as a player under JVG. It was good having him last year because he could slash and find a shot for himself, which was the kind of player we needed on last year's squad. This was especially needed under a JVG offense IMO.

    Fortunately we got more talent this year so we don't have to worry about that. I think Morey knows that Snyder needs to be moved. There's just no room for a Snyder type player on this roster right now. Hopefully the opportunity to get rid of him will come sooner than later. If not, then hey.. he's used to the bench anyways.

    When he does get traded/cut, he'll be that player that I hate again because of that one play he did when he dunked and ran to our bench and acted a fool that got us some T's.
     
  2. A_3PO

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    What exactly does Snyder have in common with Bonzi? They are actually very different players.

    I'm with the idea that the word "potential" should be removed from any Snyder discussion. He is a borderline rotation player at best. He hasn't developed any skills since coming to the NBA and never will. His basketball IQ is on display every time he takes the floor.
     
  3. Pistol Pete

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    We need Snyder to play well in preseason, so that we can trade him. We don't need him on this roster.
     
  4. iconoclastic

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    Snyder should have been a rotation player for us last year, when we didn't really have that much talent on our roster. Now, he's simply not going to cut it as a rotation guy on a championship caliber team, like this year's.
     
  5. Trip

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    I don't like him either. He has athleticism but he's not exceptionally quick at his position, can't shoot well, doesn't play spectular defense. He's got nothing special, just a big bundle of athletic gifts but not good at any particular facet of the game.

    Watching him jack up shot after shot against Panathainakos was painful as well.
     
  6. thacabbage

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    Kirk Snyder blows. Those of you thinking he will ever contribute one iota to this team are kidding yourselves.
     
  7. emjohn

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    The thread could have ended with this.

    Exactly.

    Evan
     
  8. Joe Joe

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    Snyder is a good player for the price. I don't see the Rockets cutting him, but he will have a hard time being on the active roster.
     
  9. Barkley

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    Agree. WIth Francis, James, McGrady, Alston, Bonzi, maybe Brooks he will have a tough task
     
  10. GermanRoxFan

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    i guess this is directed at my post. i didn't say snyder was a lock down defender. i said he has all the physical tools to be one. he has the wingspan, the size, the athleticism and the strength. unfortunately he obviously has no brain and not the will to use those tools. so overall, snyder is currently only an average defender.

    and i agree. snyder is not a talent anymore. he hasn't developed at all since coming to the nba. and after all these years it would be hard to change this fact in the future.
     
  11. Nero

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    As stated in a different thread, Snyder just doesn't offer anything to this team that it doesn't already have in better players. He seems to be a good kid, a hard worker, good athlete, and seemingly has a good attitude, but he doesn't make this team better for his being on it. And in a situation where 5 guys have got to go, that does not bode well for him.

    He looked to be on the verge of solidifying his spot on this team last year, on a much weaker team, and then he broke his wrist. And as far as JVG was concerned, that was it. To JVG, if you are not one of the Superstars, then if you are injured and cannot contribute, then you may as well not exist.

    And now, the team has had so many quality additions that Snyder is no longer going to be a guy who contributes, healthy or not.

    The only way that a guy like Snyder makes the final roster is if we have some kind of serious injury situation in training camp - I am talking like Bonzi, Battier or TMac goes down for the year, then Snyder would stay. Otherwise, no.

    Five guys gotta go.

    Guys we know are gone:

    Sura
    Lucas3

    Guys fighting for that last spot:

    Harris (sorry guys, no fully-guaranteed contract means probably no spot)
    Reed
    Novak (too bad, kid can shoot, but JVG pretty much ruined him - good luck playing Euro-ball)
    Snyder


    Only one of these last 4 guys will get to stay, likely a battle between Reed and Novak. My guess is Novak is gone. Just like Snyder, Novak doesn't give us anything we don't already have in better players. Plus, Reed makes a fair chunk of change. Dark horse here would be Harris taking Reed's spot too, but that would be asking an awful lot of Les for the sake of an end-of-the-bench DNP-CD/Inactive player every night.
     
  12. n8rox06

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    Word!
     
  13. BimaThug

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    Snyder and Bonzi are both big, thick guards who can also play small forward. They are both above-average perimeter defenders who have relatively long arms and can get in the passing lanes. Of course, Kirk doesn't have the low-post game that Bonzi does.

    My worry is that, if Bonzi leaves in free agency next summer, the Rockets will be left with a bunch of undersized shooting guards backing up McGrady. Francis, James and Head will run into trouble defending some of the league's biggest two-guards. While I know that Battier can defend some of those guys, it would be nice to have at least one big guard on the bench to rotate in for a few minutes in these situations or in case of injuries to our starters.
     
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    It seems like coaches and fans have been waiting on Snyder's "upside" for years......yet, he always seems to look the same. Even Head made a gigantic leap in 3 point shooting after his first year. Snyder hasn't improved dramatically in any one area. Also, athleticism helps, but it requires a lot of smarts too. Battier is not the most athletically gifted athlete in the league, but he's a student of the game and knows where to be and how he can contribute on help defense. When Snyder was the starter last year, I felt like the team was not at its best. Snyder's contract also is not a cheap contract. He will make a little over 3 million in 2008.....that's a lot for a guy that might not make the active roster and doesn't make much of an impact when we play important games. We can reason that we need him to guard the big athletic star shooting guards.....but, he got torched when we played those stars. He showed that he didn't know how to position his body and how to anticipate the star's player...... Next year, I'd rather use the money we save from Snyder and use that money better elsewhere.
     
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    3 different coaches all came to the same conclusion...snyder is not good enough. now adelman is the 4th. he will come to the same conclusion. bonzi luther stevo and james are all significantly better than snyder. snyder's rare highlights come packaged with many lowlights and mistakes
     
  16. Joe Joe

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    That he deserves a roster spot and that he should start 20% of the time? I highly doubt Snyder starts 20% of the time. I'm thinking he ends up on the inactive list. If he starts at all, the Rockets will either have had a horrible injury bug or have homefield advantage throughout playoffs.
     
  17. Dream lover

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    Since when was Snyder an average defender, much less above average. I'm not going to keep him just for insurance for Bonzi leaving. We have enough good players on our team that we won't hurt that much without him.

    If the guy had Battier's brain in him he would be a very productive starter on any team, but I've never seen that guy think on his feet in a game. To me, he's another Stromile Swift, athletic and dumb.
     
  18. cavevato

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    Didnt Coach JVG say he thought Snyder would thrive in Adelman's offense? Now he isnt good enough to play?
     
  19. ThePrivate

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    I just don't see where Snyder gets minutes with this talented Rocket's team.

    I won't be surprised if Snyder gets traded.
     
  20. rhino17

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    Kirk is a TERRIBLE shooter. He most likely will not make this roster, he is not needed
     

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