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GoT showrunners adapting The Three-Body Problem for Netflix

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    Life is cheap in these Communist/former Communist countries. The more money and power you have, the more protection you need. Bodyguards, anti-ninjas and food tasters. Crazy.

    Trump, watch your back when you're living in exile in Russia.
     
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    Mathematicians find 12,000 new solutions to 'unsolvable' 3-body problem
    By Briley Lewis
    published 1 day ago

    Calculating the way three things orbit each other is notoriously tricky — but a new study may reveal 12,000 new ways to make it work.

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    One planet orbiting a star? No problem. Two or more planets orbiting a star? Now that's one of the biggest problems in astrophysics. (Image credit: NASA)

    The three-body problem is a notoriously tricky puzzle in physics and mathematics, and an example of just how complex the natural world is. Two objects orbiting each other, like a lone planet around a star, can be described with just a line or two of mathematical equations. Add a third body, though, and the math becomes much harder. Because each object influences the others with its gravity, calculating a stable orbit where all three objects get along is a complex feat.


    Now, an international team of mathematicians claims to have found 12,000 new solutions to the infamous problem — a substantial addition to the hundreds of previously known scenarios. Their work was published as a preprint to the database arXiv, meaning it has not yet undergone peer review.

    Isaac Newton wrote down his foundational laws of motion, and mathematicians have been working on solutions to the three-body problem pretty much ever since. There is no single correct answer; instead, there are many orbits that can work within the laws of physics for three orbiting objects.

    Unlike our planet's simple loop around the sun, orbits for the three-body problem can look twisted and tangled, like pretzels and scribbles. The 12,000 newly discovered ones are no exception — the three hypothetical objects start at a standstill and, when released, are pulled into various spirals toward one another via gravity. They then fling past one another, moving farther away, until the attraction takes over and they once again come together, repeating this pattern over and over again.

    The orbits "have a very beautiful spatial and temporal structure," lead study author Ivan Hristov, a mathematician at Sofia University in Bulgaria, told New Scientist. Hristov and colleagues found these orbits using a supercomputer, and he's confident that with even better tech, he could find "five times more."

    Three-body systems are quite common in the universe; there are plenty of star systems with multiple planets, or even multiple stars orbiting each other. In theory, these new solutions could prove extremely valuable to astronomers trying to explain the cosmos. But they're only useful if they're stable, meaning the orbital patterns can repeat over time without breaking apart, flinging one of the component worlds off into space. Just because they're theoretically stable doesn't mean they'll stand up to the many other forces present in a real star system.

    "Their physical and astronomical relevance will be better known after the study of stability — it's very important," Hristov said.

    Juhan Frank, an astronomer at Louisiana State University who wasn't involved in the work, is skeptical that these orbits will turn out to be stable. They're "probably never realized in nature," he told New Scientist. "After a complex and yet predictable orbital interaction, such three-body systems tend to break into a binary and an escaping third body, usually the least massive of the three."

    No matter what, though, these solutions are a mathematical wonder. According to Hristov, "stable or unstable — they are of great theoretical interest."
     
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    on episode 4 now.










    wat am i watching..?
     
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    I haven’t seen the Netflix series but watched some of the Chinese series.

    I’ve seen clips of the Netflix series and the two series show a major cultural difference. The Chinese series moves very slowly and feels almost glacial at times. The Netflix series form what I understands crams a lot into about a third of the time.
     
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    I was curious about the chinese version
    I liked the American Version
    I liked it so much I listened to the audio books
    because I didn't want to wait 4 yrs for season 2 and then have it cancelled after that with no conclusion
    Which means now I am not as anxious for the rest of the series

    Rocket River
     
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    I wonder if these big companies realize that they're losing viewers because people don't want to invest in a show that will be canceled?
     
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    or do they care
    It becomes a cycle

    We cancel shows cause no on watches
    no one watches cause they cancel shows

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    Read the first book a few months ago. Really liked it. But for whatever reason, I haven't started book 2, even though I have it. Then I read a book named Consider Phlebas and completely fell in love with it. It is, of course, the first book in the 10-book Culture series and I'm now about 60% finished with the second book, The Player of Games.

    I actually had no idea that Consider Phlebas was part of a massive series or I probably never would have even started it. But now I'm sucked in. So I think 3BP series might just be a casualty of the Culture series that is really clicking with me.

    As for the show, I am skeptical. I hope it's good. I hope it's great! But a lot of the charm of 3BP was from the Chinese cultural influences and if that is completely erased from the story then it's a completely different story. So I don't know if I'll ever actually get around to the show.
     
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    At the very least throw in a 2hr movie that compresses most of the hanging threads for the fans who invested a waking day's or two worth of their asses parked on a sofa.

    Maybe it doesn't jive with "total engagement time" in the long run or whatever.
     
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    True. There is alot of times I am looking for movies
    because I don't want to invest in 8~10 hours into half a story

    Getting locked into a story then have it end between seasons
    Esp if it is an original story . . . it's worse because there is no finish
    At least with things like 3 body . . I can go find the books

    Rocket River
     
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    Looking forward to season two and have delved into the outstanding books. I appreciate this channel which specializes in deep dives into great Sci-Fi and Fantasy books and shows. It also has an episode of the Chinese version.

     
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    Almost day and night difference between the two. ALMOST. The Chinese version is probably much truer to the book (haven’t read) but it’s so slow I just can’t watch it at normal speed. In terms of visual quality, the Chinese version is like home made in comparison.
     
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    The Chinese version is on Peacock. It’s not dubbed so unless you speak mandarin you have to read subtitles.

    As an aside I speak mandarin but one of the characters has a really strong Beijing accent and it’s hard for me to understand him. I imagine this would be like someone who isn’t a native English speaker listening to someone with a strong Boston accent.
     
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    Yes the budget and graphics are much less in the Chinese version. The PRC film industry isn’t quite has big budget as Hollywood but can do big special effects so this might be more of a choice on the part of the producers than lack of budget or technology to do special effects.
     
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    I watched the English CC version. Think it was on Prime.
     
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    It’s also free on regular YouTube. Search Tencent Three Body Problem

    It was definitely more true to the book.
     

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