[Gossip] T-Mac in trade talks; Involves Kevin Martin and Nocioni

I would do this in a heartbeat. Martin is going to do what Tmac can't....get to the line.

 

Well how 'bout that. A Kenny "**** Houston" Thomas mention on ClutchFans.

 

He's been going downhill since we got rid of him

 

The rockets would never pull that trigger, no way in hell. Budinger on his own has the potential to be a 18-20 ppg scorer and fits this offense well. Martin isn't that good.

 

both hawes and thompson can play PF and C, i dont think they need one that bad

 

c'mon now, that wasn't a big splash!

looks like adelman really likes his old troops, just like jvg. but if this is true, i am all for it. i am sure scola will be happy, too; as he now will have a countryman on his side.

seems too one-sided in favor of the rockets, though.

 

We got past the first round.

 

of course we do this.


Doubt it would happen though

 

Is Kmart really better than CBud if they are given the same play time?

 

I don't see the kings mortgaging their future by trading away kevin martin plus kevin martin's scoring basically carries the kings and they still suck so giving away their best player for another player coming off of injury is just paid r****ded.

 

i can see this going down if it were true....we'd be getting the lesser of two evils in that both have been injury prone, but Martin's isn't as bad as tmac's latest injury and he's shown the ability to be a big time scorer most recently and is younger. His defense becomes an issue, but do we really need his individual D when we play great D as a team? We just need him to try. I'm not sure what happens to nocioni, just clogs up the 3 and 4 spot, possibly

Sac would do it because Evans is an even younger SG than Martin and would take over the starting spot, which means Garcia, a solid player himself, would get enough mins at the back up spot. Martin is young for our team, but in Sac he's the oldest of the core group, so that would also allow them to finalize that core, possibly by trading Tmac's contract and getting another young guy or a pick. Nicioni is too old for them , also doesnt fit.

 

Yes. offensivley

 

at this point, he's alot better offensively...he'll score more and definitely get to the line more, shoots it from all over the court like Bud too.

 

if the kings go for it, it will be all for the money but not bball. maybe the casino in vegas isn't running so well...

 

I hope this is legit because Kevin Martin is precisely the type of player that we need to be targeting. Like the rest of you, i'm concerned over Nocioni's rather ugly contract compounded with yet another injury to K-Mart. Would I do this mentioned deal? Not quite sure. Is it enough to get my attention? Yes, absolutely -- I have suggested a McGrady-for-Martin based trade on a number of occasions so clearly I am all for the idea. It's just a matter of ironing out the wrinkles (bad contracts, draft picks, etc).

The term "perfect fit" gets used rather loosely on this forum. I've seen it used to describe a number of players, but rarely does using the term ever seem appropriate. Martin is one such case where that term applies. He's literally the perfect type of player for the type of offense Rick Adelman runs -- lots off movement, read-and-react, catch-and-shoots, etc. K-Mart does all that. He does it now, he did it last year and he did it three years ago whenever Adelman coached him in Sacramento originally. We're talking about a 26-year-old in the prime of his career that gets to the line on average more than any player in the league that can shoot the lights out of the ball with deceptive athleticism. Hell, everything about this kid's game is deceptive and, well, surprising. He looks like he's 18-years-old and completely rail thin at 6'7" yet he'll blow right by you, absorb contact or bury a jumper in your face. At $10-13M per year he's getting paid below market value. No character issues. I mean, what's not to love....?

So yeah, he's injury prone. Okay, we're used to that -- Adelman could probably finish 41-41 with our third stringers alone, he's that good of a coach. Defense? I'll gladly admit he's not much of a defender. The good thing with that is any good coach can mask a substandard defender on the floor by surrounding him with proficient defensive players. Do you mean to tell me on a unit of K-Mart with Ariza or Battier plus Lowry that our perimeter defense would suffer or be in any sort of jeopardy? I don't believe that at all. We have the personnel and coaching to make this work. The catch is how much do we have to give up to get him? Taking on Nocioni's contract is a lot easier said than done.

 

Kevin Martin is exactly what we need. A prolific scorer who can get to the line at will and he's only 26 years old. If we have Martin then I'm all for giving Yao a second chance to come back if he can somehow return healthy. Martin's inside/outside game with his ability to slash and get to the line would compliment Yao in a major way. Even if Yao doesn't come back Martin would be a great asset to this team. Basically if he's being offered we MUST take him. It'd be very foolish of us to not nab him in hopes of signing a big time F/A this summer or trying to trade and get a better offer for Mcgrady cause there is none and there will be none.

I'd say Martin is a top 5 shooting guard behind Kobe, Wade, Roy and Joe Johnson. I hope this rumor is true.

 

If this is all Sac's been asking, you have to do the deal.

 

Good post. Plus, regardless of however people want to rank Martin, the fact of the matter is he's capable of rivaling or at least statistically canceling out two of the biggest thorns in our side at his position (Roy, Kobe). That's always a nice luxury to have if you have a player capable of standing toe-to-toe with the premier players (and likely forcing those guys to play defense at some point along the way).

 

I live in the Bay Area. I have been hearing this rumor since last season. I heard that they tried to trade McGrady to Sacto last year and almost got it done until he reported his microfracture surgery.

So, I wouldn't be surprised if talks are still alive.

 

but after watching his team just basically blows out 2 straight teams with him on the bench raises how much he does help his team when he's on the floor. and it's not a coincidence tyreke evans has struggled with kmart, and exploded like a star with him on the bench.

he has to change his style of play dramatically if he's with us b/c he's not going to get a ton of shots, and if he doesn't shoot, he doesn't do anything else.