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Goran vs. Gordon: In hindsight, should Stern have taken Morey's package?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Apr 7, 2012.

  1. Carl Herrera

    Carl Herrera Contributing Member

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    Let's revisit the Chris Paul trade that was vetoed/rejected for basketball reasons. Should the Hornets have taken the Lakers/Rockets trade rather than the Clipper one in retrospect? Of course no one thought that highly of Goran back then, but he is arguably better than Eric Gordon now.

    The assets that the Hornets got turned out to be Gordon (has knee problems, need to get paid soon), Aminu (not impressive), Kaman and Minny pick (likely late lotto). They could have had Scola, Martin, Dragic, Odom, and some picks from Houston and/or LA and maybe other stuff. If they didn't want to win with the vets, they could have flipped them to other teams early in the (with some restrictionsbon not combining players in trades). We know, for example, the Lakers traded Odom for a first rounder from Dallas.
     
  2. LOLatSoccer

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    Eric Gordon will be a SUPERSTAR
     
  3. conquistador#11

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    that was a good trade for all teams except the Rockets.
     
  4. OremLK

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    That deal is looking worse for NO by the day

    Maybe Gordon will still turn out to be worth it, but I kinda doubt it
     
  5. LOLatSoccer

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    yep... sucks to be a hornets fan right
     
  6. Air Langhi

    Air Langhi Contributing Member

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    You also forgot the most important part of the trade, the no1 pick, which will most likely be anthony davis. Would you rather have him or scola, goran, and martin? BTW odom and martin are dead weight.

    Stern made the right call for the hornets. We should be glad to otherwise we would be stuck with gasol and nene. 12 mil a year for nene was terrible then and is terrible now and gasol has fallen off.
     
  7. Spooner

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    He wont be a Hornet for long.
     
  8. Carl Herrera

    Carl Herrera Contributing Member

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    Did not forget. As I said, Hornets didnt want to win, they could have flipped Scola, Odom and Odom to other teams.
     
  9. Spooner

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    Davis has just as good of a chance as landing with the Bobcats or Wizards. Even the Raptors and Cavs have a shot. It isn't clear cut the Hornets get the first overall pick. They don't even have the worst record in the NBA.

    You can't realistically call Odom and Martin deadweight. AT THE TIME OF THE TRADE, Odom was coming off of a 6th man of the year performance putting up fantastic numbers. Who would have thought he would go through emotional issues? Had he been in New Orleans instead of Dallas, his car never would have hit and killed that kid in Dallas anyway. Kevin Martin was having arguably the best season of his career. Just because he isn't playing now doesn't mean he is deadweight. He was putting up very good numbers this year before injury. There was a significant drop off in production while he played with an injured shoulder.

    Scola, Dragic, Martin, Odom and picks is better than Aminu, a pick and Eric Gordon, who is out the door anyway. There is no way he stays in New Orleans, something he has already hinted at. Are you blind?

    BTW Gasol hasn't fallen off. Check his numbers. He is playing just as well, even alongside a dominant center. Nene was the most efficient player in the league last year. Bottom line is, he isn't nearly as effective as a 4. We learned that this year. He would have played the 5 next to Gasol. There is no doubt we would have been a much better team with the inclusion of Gasol, Nene, Lin and Hayes.
     
  10. Medicine N Music

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    Why is it a foregone conclusion that Gordon will be a superstar? Because he averaged 22pts per game on a bad Clippers team? Jerry Stackhouse averaged 30pts for a bad Detroit team too. Gordon is above average in both offense and defense, NOT elite in any category, as of right now. He can create his own shot, but how is he different from a SG version of Rudy Gay? Even though Gordon has terrific length, he is still 6'3, which means bigger SGs and SFs may give him problems on the defensive side. Personally, I'd take Gay over him.

    If Dragic continues to play this well for a full season, you can make a case that Dragic is worth more than Gordon. PGs are almost always in higher demand than SGs since they control the tempo of the game. Even right now, if I had a choice of these two, I'd pick Dragic over Gordon. 18pts/9ast/2stls with good shooting%, ability to penetrate, and above average defense is a MAX player.
     
  11. BleedRocketsRed

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    I really do like Eric Gordon. He is an amazing young shooting guard who I feel will be elite (in a league which has the 2 guard position getting weaker by the day). He has perfect size at the 2, a very good defender, can shoot/score with the best of them. Obviously has areas which need improvement but given his age, he is one of the best prospects in the league bar none.

    But I doubt he will remain a Hornet. I fully expect him to take the offer sheet and become unrestricted in 2013 to get the hell out of that mess (which is what he should do imo).

    And if you don't think the Gasol deal would have made us a better overall team, you are crazy. Lowry v Goran is roughly even, Lin is an above-average backup, Gasol would have given us the force we needed to get closer to contend (love Scola but Gasol would be a HUGE upgrade, especially defensively/on the boards). Nene may not be that good but he would be an upgrade for us.




    Did the Hornets get shafted? With Dragic/KMart/Ariza/Scola/Okafor & Landry/Odom off the bench, they would probably be gunning for an 8th seed while right now they have a great young prospect in EG and a shot at another in Anthony Davis (or Drummond or Kidd-Gilchrist). So hell no, they did not get shafted.
     
  12. thetatomatis

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    New Orleans got messed over by David Stern getting involved. They would be a significantly better team now. If they didnt want Kevin Martins contract they could have flipped him for a draft pick later.
     
  13. Mr. Clutch

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    Stern is a moron.

    This is why he is not a GM.

    That trade would have worked out well for all teams and made them all more competitive and the league more exciting.
     
  14. rock4ever

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    Hell no. Scola is better than Gasol and also WAY more consistent. Anybody who thinks we'd be better off with Gasol and without Scola, Dragic or Martin is basically working Rockets PR department. That trade was TERRIBLE for us. Gasol should NEVER be a center piece for a rebuilding team.
     
  15. rock4ever

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    How exactly was getting Pau Gasol going to make us much better?
     
  16. heypartner

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    This thread is odd. The question shouldn't be about NoLa. It should be about the Rockets.

    Are we better off that Stern vetoed the trade and we still have Goran, Scola and Martin rather than Gasol?
     
  17. across110thstreet

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    we would have built the team around Nene and Gasol. Lin would have likely stayed in Houston.

    I still think the Hornets made out best n the original vetoed trade, even over the Lakers
     
  18. BleedRocketsRed

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    Les is always in win-now mode. No rebuilding here.

    Gasol is a superior defensive player and rebounder to Scola. While he may not have better post moves, his size makes him more of a presence down low. Also he would get those superstar calls which we have been begging for.

    Him alongside Nene would give us an elite interior defense. Who cares about Martin? He is useless. Dragic is amazing but Lowry is not a major drop off and Lin can come off the bench for good spot minutes.
     
  19. oogie boogie

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    lol eric gordon is better than dragic. I would take EJ over Dragic in a heartbeat
     
  20. Air Langhi

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    You don't think the emperor stern will give nola the no1 pick? With what the hornets got they might have been the same as us 7 or 8th seed and stuck on the treadmill of mediocrity.

    I think it would have been a bad deal for the rockets. I don't think the rockets would trade scola and dragic for gasol now.
     

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