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GOP Senator Ben Sasse endorses Joe Biden?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Carl Herrera, Oct 16, 2020.

  1. Carl Herrera

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    This is actually game changing.

    So Ben Sasse RINO?
     
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    There's actually a viable option available that wasn't during the Bush Shamnesia era, criminalize Trump crimes and make it a bipartisan vote.

    That'll put these slimy off election-year sons of bitches on the same record as their voting **** streaks.

    American people might even get some reforms curtailing the authoritarian executive...

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...onist-history-trump-is-already-being-written/
    The Greek philosopher Diogenes supposedly walked the streets of Athens carrying a lantern in the daytime; when asked why, he said he was looking, without success, for an honest man. Had you transported him to Washington today and told him to wander among the members of the Republican Party, Diogenes would have no more luck.


    But as they face the very real possibility that their corrupt bargain with President Trump will end in political catastrophe, they’re starting to get worried about how they’ll be judged in a post-Trump world. So the revisionist history is already beginning. To “We don’t think judges should be political” and “We’ll protect preexisting conditions,” you can add “I never liked Donald Trump anyway.”


    As The Post’s Jacqueline Alemany reports, people still working for Trump are worried about getting jobs in the future. One campaign staffer told her, “There’s just that stigma of being a Trump person.”

    So how do you avoid the stigma? It’s not too early to start. Consider Sen. Ben Sasse of Nebraska, who may run for president in 2024. The Washington Examiner obtained a tape of a recent conference call Sasse did with constituents, in which he unloaded on Trump in a way no other congressional Republican has, at least not yet.

    “I don’t think the way he’s led through covid has been reasonable or responsible, or right,” Sasse said, and complained about how Trump “kisses dictators’ butts.” Here’s more from Sasse:

    The United States now regularly sells out our allies under his leadership, the way he treats women, spends like a drunken sailor. [...] He mocks evangelicals behind closed doors. His family has treated the presidency like a business opportunity. He’s flirted with white supremacists.

    All true, of course. But we should note that when Sasse was facing the possibility of a primary challenge from the right, he muted his occasional criticisms of Trump and was rewarded with an endorsement from the president; only now, with his own reelection a certainty, is he speaking so freely.

    Also note that this wasn’t a private meeting with a handful of donors or party operatives. It was a conference call with constituents, which he surely knew might find its way to the media.

    Consider the contrast with Sen. Cory Gardner of Colorado, who was asked in a debate this week whether Trump is a moral and ethical person. “Yes,” Gardner replied, hastening to add, “I wish he could be more specific in his communications with the American people.”

    Awkward formulation aside, Gardner was attempting to fall back on a common Republican rationalization when asked about Trump’s monstrousness. They usually say something like “I wish he wouldn’t tweet so much,” which is supposed to allow them to sound a little bit scolding without criticizing Trump in any meaningful way, as though the problem with him is just a few errant tweets.


    So is Sasse more honest than Gardner? Not in the least. Both are simply adapting to the situations they find themselves in. Gardner is probably going to lose, but if he alienates Trump supporters, he’ll definitely lose. Sasse, on the other hand, has what Gardner doesn’t: the freedom to position himself for the post-Trump era.

    He’s betting that the greatest advantage for a Republican in the next few years will be found in claiming to have been part of the team on whatever the party decides it still likes about this period in its history — such as stonewalling Merrick Garland’s nomination to the Supreme Court, lying about why they were doing it, and then jamming Amy Coney Barrett through — while also saying you found Trump personally repugnant.

    The assumption is that Trump will not only lose this election but lose badly, and the worse that loss turns out to be, the more the party will want to distance itself from him. A blowout election — especially one that delivers the Senate into Democratic hands — will forever mark Trump as a loser whose stench Republicans will want to rid themselves of.

    So from ambitious Republicans, we’re likely to see an expansion of that “I wish he would stop tweeting” critique into something broader, but still carefully calibrated. They’ll say he screwed up the pandemic, and they didn’t like his racism and sexism or his personal corruption. They’ll watch their constituents closely to determine the least dangerous criticisms, and what things they should avoid saying.

    And if Trump is indeed on his way to defeat, he’s going down in a blaze of lunacy that will give people like Sasse more latitude to criticize him later.

    Sasse said something else on that call that was revealing, in which he predicted what the internal Republican debate will be about Trump.

    “The debate is not going to be, ‘Ben Sasse, why were you so mean to Donald Trump?’” he said. “It’s going to be, ‘What the heck were any of us thinking, that selling a TV-obsessed, narcissistic individual to the American people was a good idea?’ ”


    If that’s your prediction — and it seems like a good one — then the best thing to do is get on the front end of it right now, before anyone else has. And as Sasse knows, there’s nothing political reporters love more than intraparty conflict. Which means that he can get lots of attention and be remembered as the first important elected Republican in Washington to really stick it to Trump.

    But all that clever positioning shouldn’t make us forget the truth: Though most of them will deny it, just about the entire Republican Party was with Trump every step of the way. The fact that the rats are starting to abandon the sinking ship now doesn’t change what they did and who they are.
     
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    shrug...don’t even care

    most of these people allowed Trump to fck around unchecked for almost 4 years...when they did say something, it was usually via sources

    the GOP must pay for what they’ve done to this country
     
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    They likely will not.

    They lost big in 2008, yet won big in 2010.
     
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    They spread their legs to get with power. Now they'll be doing the walk of shame and talking all kinds of **** to try and salvage some dignity. However, the next chance they have they'll be right back to spreading their legs again. If Trump was winning right now they'd all still be praising dear leader.
     
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    Little ben sASSe!

     
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    If Ben Sasse was up for reelection he might be saying something different.
     
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    He is running this year.

    Sasse feels sassé because he won his primary and has a 99% chance of winning.

    Weasel wants to run for 2024
     
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    Trump is so gracious.

    I especially like how he constantly talks about "helping states" like some goddamn dictator who owns the country and grants resources as he pleases.

    He will never understand that his role should be to be a public servant and that all of his powers, including the one to redistribute resources, are granted by the people.
     
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    He stole Marco Rubio's nickname!
     
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    My mistake. I thought he was up in 2022.
     
  16. Carl Herrera

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    Would be interesting if Trumpists actually abandon Ben's ass en masse, causing him to lose the election.
     
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