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GOP outlines 2.5 Trillion in spending cuts (none to defense)

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Phillyrocket, Jan 20, 2011.

  1. JuanValdez

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    I'm referring to this proposal's refusal to cut our military spending to reduce the deficit. I think leadership thinks of that $3b as money we would have to spend ourselves in the middle-east if we didn't have Israel doing it for us. So it is essentially additional military spending and immune to cuts in this proposal. If it were for economic development (like the Egyptian money probably is), they might feel a little differently.
     
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    yea I have a problem with the proposal if they refuse to cut military spending. Hopefully this is something both sides can work on and come to a compromise. As for the cuts proposed I am all for it. Those seem like useless programs that the Fed Gov has no business in. It's small but its a start.
     
  4. mc mark

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    Good luck explaining to someone that’s been out of work for two years that cuts are more important than worrying about losing a job.

    As far as job loss in the military, yes you are correct, that would have to be addressed as well. But I bet there’s a lot more pork in the military industrial complex that can be cut than there is in education or entitlements.
     
  5. JuanValdez

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    Also, I don't really appreciate this idea they have to kill HCR by not funding it. As many times as they want to say that the Will of the People is to repeal, the truth is it is legislation passed by our elected representatives, including a president who specfically promised to pass it. If anything is to be construed as the Will of the People, it should be the legislation duly passed, and I don't appreciate them trying to undermine what we voted for like this.
     
  6. wouldabeen23

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    not against it, but your reasoning.

    Conervative, religious republicans are the staunchest supporters of military and economic aid to Israel. I see you are familiar with the googley, perhaps you can verify this as well. :grin:
     
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    really?? based on what facts?? I can see one argument that military spending is what keeps this nation safe and strong. Plus a lot of money poured into defense creates research and tech jobs. Now that is less important than say a job in the endowment of the arts?? Entitlements? really? well I won't go into entitlements since we have very different political views on that so it will just end up going back and forth.

    Also I agree defense needs to be cut.

    We cant keep on supporting all these programs for everyone if we have to keep borrowing from future generations.
    I have always disliked Jerry Brown but I give him props for proposing some tough cuts across the board out here in Cali. That is a lot more than Arnold (a shameful Republican) ever did.
     
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    so you are saying the Jews don't support all the aid the US gives to their home country of Israel?
    There are a lot of powerful Jews in Washington which is why the US gives them so much support. It has nothing to do with Dems or Repubs. Neither side has the guts or balls to cut funding for Israel. The Dems had power in both houses of congress and the President yet nothing was done.
     
  9. wouldabeen23

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    I said nothing of the sort. I was refuting your assertion that billions are going to Israel because most Jews are Democrats...In either case, it doesn't matter, support for Israel is as much as a third rail in politics as SS and Medicare.
     
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    I also said nothing about billions going to Israel because most Jews are democrats. I was refuting your original claim that billions are going to Israel because its ALL THE REPUBLICANs doing. Your original post did claim that. I only refuted it saying that is not necessarily true since it's both parties and most jews do support funding israel and most jews are democrats so its not just the Republican party. In fact it has nothing to do with either parties. It's something that is not going to go away.
     
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    right here laughing hysterically at you liberals who cannot comprehend the idea of spending CUTS. Did you know such a thing was possible? Sorry, chaps!

    Last November, the people spoke loud and clear that they wanted more influence from the GOP. Watch out, here we come, brah
     
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    And in 2008 the American people elected a president that promised healthcare reform. Why are republicans now going against the will of the American people and repealing something we voted a president into office for?

    as usual, you make no sense
     
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    I think they meant more the point that this proposal not only doesn't add up, not only deflects the meat of the problem on later congress', but also that it ignores the effect on people and the economy in the loss of jobs. Not that "OH NOES, IT CUTS IT CUTS!"
     
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    more on this...

    Poll Finds Wariness About Cutting Entitlements

    Nearly two-thirds of Americans choose higher payroll taxes for Medicare and Social Security over reduced benefits in either program. And asked to choose among cuts to Medicare, Social Security or the nation’s third-largest spending program — the military — a majority by a large margin said cut the Pentagon.
     
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    How does the USA benefit from an economically unsound Egypt?

    Seriously, the war hawk attitude befuddles the mind...

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    someone give these idiots a course in Strategy, Operations Management or ******* it, basic history.
     
  19. wouldabeen23

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    on that, we agree
     
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    Yes we agree on something.. Let's cut military spending!! But who's going to do it? Not the Repubs and not the Democrats either. Last I checked military spending already at record highs has gone up under Obama and the Dems in congress. I don't see Obama or the current GOP house cutting back on that spending either..
     

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