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[GOP GA] gone wild

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Amiga, Mar 26, 2021.

  1. deb4rockets

    deb4rockets Contributing Member
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    Lots of Veterans mail in votes too. Shame on the GOP.
     
  2. J.R.

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    How many votes are getting thrown out?
     
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    1. Georgia has more competitive GOP primaries this year than in 2018 - of course turnout will be up.
    2. Early voting is not necessarily indicative of overall voting trends (as Dems learned in both 2016 and 2020).
    3. Early voting relative to election-day voting is a growing trend across the country every year.
    4. The problem with GA laws are that it makes it more difficult or more obnoxious for *certain* voters. So overall turnout is irrelevant if it turnout is up amongst a group that still has it easy and is lower amongst a group that has it harder.
    5. Many of the problems with the GA law relate to long lines on election day, so that likely drives some early voting increases as well.

    We won't know much about the impact of the GA law until after there's been time to analyze turnout after the election. Anyone who's trying to make claims now has a partisan goal rather than an interest in facts or data.
     
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    eliminating voter id was always about control and trying to make voter fraud easier
     
  6. Os Trigonum

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    Voting is surging in Georgia despite controversial new election law
    Tuesday’s primary is the first big test of the legislation, which was opposed by voting rights groups and Democrats.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...orgia-despite-controversial-new-election-law/
     
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  7. Deckard

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    Let's hope voters in Georgia don't run up against the barriers to voting that caused over 12% of Texas primary mail-in ballots, 24,000 votes, to get tossed under new GOP voting rules.

    TEXAS 2022 ELECTIONS
    More than 12% of mail-in ballots were rejected in Texas under new GOP voting rules, final tally shows

    Figures released by the Texas secretary of state show that more than 24,000 Texas voters had their ballots rejected in the March primary. The rejection rate is a significant increase over previous elections.

    BY ALEXA URA APRIL 6, 2022UPDATED: 2 PM CENTRAL

    https://www.texastribune.org/2022/04/06/texas-mail-in-ballot-rejection-voting/
     
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    It's also true that Obama was the best gun salesperson that the US has ever had because of propaganda on the right. However in this case there is proof that Republican's do want to make it harder for you to vote at the very least, and in alot of cases just outright throw out votes they don't like.

    I mean do you want me to talk about the new candidates running for Secretary of State as MAGA Republicans actively campaigning on having the ability to overturn elections??

    Or how about the Republicans on the Supreme Court's own family actively working with State legislators to overturn elections???

    https://www.azmirror.com/2022/05/20...lick-for-help-overturning-bidens-arizona-win/

    So let's cut the bullsh$t about Republicans ACTUALLY NOT wanting to meddle with elections by picking their voters or flat out throwing out votes. You don't need a FoxNews type of propaganda machine to create that narrative. Hell... why not just listen to Donald Trump himself.




    But yes... voting is at an all time high, and has been increasing in the Trump era. People being scared that we are losing our democracy, losing a woman's right to choose, losing voting abilities, and have a party that is owned by the NRA who loves a good mass shooting to scare people into buying more guns does tend to motivate people to get off their a$$es.

    That still doesn't make what the Republicans are doing any better.
     
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  10. Rocket River

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    *WHO* is voting is the question.
    Total votes. . . .versus the votes of the people the law is meant to suppress

    Rocket River
     
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    https://www.wsj.com/articles/joe-bi...abrams-11668035286?mod=hp_opin_pos_6#cxrecs_s

    Biden’s ‘Jim Crow 2.0’ Dies in Georgia
    Voter turnout in the state exceeds the record of 2018, with no report of problems.
    By The Editorial Board
    Nov. 9, 2022 6:52 pm ET

    Control of the House and Senate still hangs in the balance, but one Tuesday result was clear: President Biden’s “Jim Crow 2.0” rhetoric about state voting laws was a nasty political distortion.

    The Georgia Secretary of State website reports that by Wednesday afternoon’s counting, 3,957,880 voters had cast a ballot in Tuesday’s election, slightly higher than the vote total in 2018—which was historic. The percentage of registered voters casting ballots dipped slightly, though that’s likely owing to the striking 520,000 increase in voter registration over the past four years. Georgia also banked record early turnout, far exceeding 2018, and coming very near to rivaling early turnout in the 2020 presidential election.

    Compare this to Mr. Biden’s warning in Atlanta in January that Georgia’s 2021 election reform was “Jim Crow 2.0.” He claimed it was intended to accomplish “two insidious things: voter suppression and election subversion.” He said the new law made it harder to vote by mail or drop box, with the clear goal of “longer lines at the polls.”

    He also warned of “threats” and intimidation against election officials, and sowed doubt about future election outcomes, since the law made voting about “who gets to count the vote and whether your vote counts at all.” This falsehood caused the CEOs of Delta and Coca-Cola to attack the law and Major League Baseball to yank it’s All Star Game from Atlanta.

    What the law really did is increase electoral integrity and voting options. It expanded weekend early voting statewide; formalized the use of drop boxes (not allowed prior to 2020); left in place no-excuse absentee voting; and ended subjective signature matching—to minimize the number of rejected absentee ballots.

    All this worked to make voting—including early voting—easier, as the Atlanta Journal-Constitution admitted in a piece that began: “Voters found out Tuesday that it’s possible to have both high turnout and short lines,” adding that “no one reported threats or illegal behavior at polling places.”

    As for the counting, Democratic Sen. Raphael Warnock leads Herschel Walker as they head to a Senate runoff. Do Democrats doubt that result? Stacey Abrams lost her rematch with Gov. Brian Kemp by so much that she couldn’t cite voter suppression as an excuse, as she did in 2018 without evidence.

    In the aftermath of 2020, some 19 states passed election reforms to increase confidence in the voting process, after Democrats used the pandemic to impose last-minute rule changes that helped sow distrust. From the early reports of solid turnout and orderly counting, it appears to have worked. Mr. Biden and his “Jim Crow” jeerers owe them an apology.
     

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