Isn't that under the backdrop of the Trump appointed post master general trying to slow down the process by scrapping sorting machines?
probably a better piece on the NY problems: https://www.syracuse.com/politics/2...e-exposes-new-yorks-election-dysfunction.html
So the one article mentioned that the existing safeguards caught problems with the voting. That seems like a good thing. That is especially true in California where you can keep track of your mail-in vote to see that it was counted. If it wasn't counted you can still vote. The other article talked about problems with machine tabulations.
my understanding is that even with mail-in ballots you must still rely on machine tabulations. Don't know if that doubles the potential for problems, but certainly it adds another layer of potential complexity
If you read that article, you'd see that the concern is not with mail-in voting itself, but with a bunch of stupid things they do with voting in NY - like no state-wide uniformity, the inability to count votes in advance, having the board of elections run by political people, etc. NY has tons of problems with their in-person voting for many of the same reasons of incompetence: https://www.nydailynews.com/news/po...0210113-4lickklupnatlmusonewzrufoe-story.html
That’s why it matters if it’s just GA or not. Jim Crow legalizes racial segregation. Obviously, this isn’t that. So don’t take it literally in that way. What it is, is legalize cheating - this has been ongoing, legalizing suppression of certain groups and it has gone into 6th gear since Trump lost. It’s not a new thing. Because it has transitioned from 1st to 2nd to 3rd gears over the decade, people have just let it ride and have gotten used to it. That includes the mainstream media and many political scientists who view these changes relative to a base that was already “legalize cheating”. They all need to come back to a basic baseline - voting is a fundamental constitutional right. We have allowed laws that cost money and time, enable cheating for nothing good in return; it was once about security and that was fair enough when we didn't know. We now have data - there is essentially no fraud. It's stupid to not just continue down this path but to accelerate. NY has its own problem that needs to be dealt with. They aren’t going backward though, in purposely making it worse and more restrictive for certain groups or to makes election more partisan. GA is doing both. The partisan legislative body now has the power to oversee election result. While court challenges could be a safety net, it’s a huge conflict of interest to have power over your own election especially when these legislative bodies have already acted upon it in crazy ways (sending alternative electors to Congress). And again, this is not just GA. I think there have been over 250 legislative proposals by Republicans in 43 states to suppress voting and more - to legalize cheating. Jim Crow was about legalizing something that shouldn't happen - racial segregation. Today Republicans are trying to legalize something that shouldn't happen - election cheating via suppression of certain groups.
If you're talking about specifically the GA law I agree it's not Jim Crow. If we look at the range of all the bills being proposed out there those are pretty worrisome. The most worrisome part that I see isn't that these are Jim Crow type suppression at the ballot box but that the ballot box might not even matter if the state legislatures can just overrule what the polls say. I don't know about GA but I know several states including their Constitutions require them to certify elections based upon actual vote totals so in those states we'll see if these laws are even constitutional. Regarding the particular discussion of private companies pulling out events and other support for GA that is pretty much their business. Whether the All Star Game is played in Atlanta or not means very little to me. I certainly don't think that MLB is showing some sort of leadership or courage on this issue. They are reading where the wind is blowing. For Delta as both a Delta shareholder and living in a Delta hub I'm all for Delta moving out of Atlanta. I don't think they are showing much leadership either but I'm not above saying that it will benefit me and my city.
Dude what did you expect an actual rebuttal or things he could find that were somewhat tangential to the subject? O's ain't got no time for deep research.
I can't help but take it literally when everybody is using Jim Crow as the main topic when discussing these new laws. I am all for addressing these real issues and everybody should be aware but using Jim Crow as a stand in for these particular laws are hyperbole and disingenuous because Jim Crow laws were much more restrictive and were more targeted the average voter is not gonna see the same thing. I'm sorry but these things are flat out different and if we start now with Jim Crow what happens when things get even more restrictive. It's like when people were throwing the modern day slavery thing around to much, stop going to extremes and it turns off people who are willing to listen to the actual issues.
I agree there some real issues, I just think throwing around the Jim Crow rhetoric is just to easy and also easy to argue against which muddies the actual argument.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott backs out of Texas Rangers' first pitch over MLB's decision to move All-Star Game from Georgia Texas Gov. Greg Abbott announced Monday afternoon that he will not be throwing out the first pitch at the Texas Rangers' home opener, as had been scheduled, because of Major League Baseball's response to voting laws recently passed in Georgia. "I was looking forward to throwing out the first pitch at the Texas Rangers' home opening game until @MLB adopted what has turned out to be a false narrative about Georgia's election law reforms. It is shameful that America's pastime is being influenced by partisan politics," the Republican governor tweeted. In an additional statement, Abbott said that he will not "participate in an event held by MLB, and the State will not seek to host the All-Star Game or any other MLB special events." https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id...ers-first-pitch-mlb-decision-move-asg-georgia Cool, so now sporting events are going to start only being help in liberal states. Really tired of seeing sports dragged into political battles. However, when the Republicans put someone in charge like Trump this is the end result.
Why would they only be held in Liberal states? What are you talking about? Abbot seems that he is not gonna let any republican outrage got to waste. Go to find someway to personalize it.
an additional statement, Abbott said that he will not "participate in an event held by MLB, and the State will not seek to host the All-Star Game or any other MLB special events."
What does any of that have to do with sports being held only in liberal states? Do you really think the state of Texas is turning down any all star game that would come to Texas? Why do you think Abbot grandstanding means anything to other states liberal or conservative?
Again, this is not new. The AFL all star game was moved, as was a Super Bowl. Athletes have protested in virtually every major sport and events including the Olympics. Players have stood up, kneeled, and wrote messages on their uniforms for many years. Seems your complaint isn't necessari;y with athletes but with what they are protesting.
And what does that prove to you? Do you not understand it's more about logistics than anything else at this point.
