GOP Failure: Only 20% of Americans now see themselves as Republicans

Yes, but. CBS News has a rep as being very favorable to the dems. See Dan Rather/60 minutes.

My poll is bigger than your poll, blah blah blah

 

Actually it doesn't. It had one instance. Rather and the producer were removed from their jobs for it.

 

that b/c the more junior went out and campaigned for it, the less popular it became.

 

that would be ironic.

 

Those groups aren't as solid voting blocks as they might be and if the GOP can get past focussing on narrow social issues they might be able to capture some of those votes. For that matter if the GOP can drop their immigration stances they might find that some of their socially conservative messages may have some traction among immgrant groups that hold socially conservative views.

Yes they will have to change their platform in many ways but in the history of US politics this hasn't been unheard of. Consider that for most of its history white Southernors were Democrats and when the Republican party started they were the party of big government.

That said I'm not even sure a complete overhaul of the Republican message is needed. MOst americans culturally like the idea of low taxes and less government regulation and while the amount of traction that message has changes due to circumstances it is something that keeps on coming up in the American mindset.

 

I still stand by my earlier post in this thread, but in the interest of fairness, I thought this article was interesting.

Here's an excerpt:

33% ain't exactly something to brag about.

 

While true, it's not too bad either. Here's the trend over the past year, in a period where it's been portrayed that Democrats are really faltering. GOP started out significantly lower and has been dropping at a more rapid pace in absolute terms, let alone percentage terms.

http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/party-id.php

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Also worth noting - in that graph, you can see that small outlier for the GOP way above every other poll right under the Dem trendline. That's Rasmussen, and it's keeping the GOP propped up higher than otherwise.

 

In my opinion, the number that is most inaccurate is the those identifying themselves as "Independents" which has kind of become the best way to avoid being pigeon-holed by the loyal opposition.

Many folks, and we see it here, claim to be "Independents" simply to avoid the stigma of association with the current party woes.

 

Yes, Basso claims to be an independent!

 

It starts to sound like my frat party is bigger than yours. 33% or 21% who cares? The generic congress vote poll is a better way to measure the mood of the country. As Rashmon stated, a lot of people claim to be independent to avoid being part of current party woes.

 

I suppose you claim to be an independent, too?

 

The generic Congress vote poll is useful in late summer 2010. It has no value whatsoever now. The value of the party-ID poll is that it tells you how big your base is, and thus how many of the independents you need to secure.

 

via boing boing

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Testosterone levels of men who voted for McCain dropped

Researchers found that male McCain voters experienced a drop in testosterone after the tribe leader they were backing lost the election. "The findings indicate that male voters exhibit biological responses to the realignment of a country's dominance hierarchy as if they participated in an interpersonal dominance contest," wrote the researchers, whose paper appeared in the PLoS ONE peer-reviewed journal.

<blockquote>The present study investigated voters' testosterone responses to the outcome of the 2008 United States Presidential election. 183 participants provided multiple saliva samples before and after the winner was announced on Election Night. The results show that male Barack Obama voters (winners) had stable post-outcome testosterone levels, whereas testosterone levels dropped in male John McCain and Robert Barr voters (losers). There were no significant effects in female voters. </blockquote>

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so that explains it

 

We need a 3rd party.

The republican party is god awful and out of touch.


The dems aren't nearly as bad but you get the picture.

 

Probably so. But more than likely I wouldn't waste my time if one of these polls tried to contact me.

 

What is brought them wins in this decade is their downfall. By appealing to the nut jobs for better part of this decade, they finally managed to alienate the moderates and libertarians.

 

This may sound crazy, but what brought them down was George W Bush winning a 2nd term when America was ready and willing to toss him out. But the Dems nominated a total loser in John Kerry who was a pathetic candidate and ran an awful campaign. Even running against Kerry, the GOP had to wage such a trashy, dirty campaign to win it tarnished them. To add insult to injury, the country had to suffer another 4 years with the incompetent Bush administration.

All of this together is what brought us President Barak Obama, along with the incredibly low standings for Republicans. If Bush lost in 2004 as nature had intended, I don't think the GOP would be in such a deep pit.

 

I read this happens after sports losses as well.