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Google building gigabit network

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  1. HombreDeHierro

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    and ejaculate before you watch it! oh...that's just me...
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    jk. :grin:
     
  2. Bandwagoner

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    That's what I'm saying. Screw Viagra, I want a pill that just makes me nut. Is my heart healthy enough for that?
     
  3. Nolen

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    Let's not forget that Google bought some 'dark fiber' back in 2005, leading to rumors of them going into the ISP business.

    Even if this stays small and only serves 50,000 people they can learn a lot from this. As they claim, they can deploy and test web applications on super fast connections.

    [conjecture] I think this will also serve some other useful purposes in the near future. The fight for net neutrality is far from over. ISPs are going to lobby to try and make Google and other large companies pay for access. FCC is also trying to get the ISPs to upgrade their networks and provide better, cheaper service which the ISPs will fight tooth and nail.

    If/when Google gets gigabit service going to a community or communities for a 'competitive price', they can go to congressional hearings and say with a straight face: "the ISPs are full of *****. We are providing gigabit service to this community at x cost. And we don't need to double dip and make large internet companies pay for access, and throttle speed." [/conjecture]
     
  4. RedRedemption

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    ED? ;)
     
  5. KePoW

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    Sign me up.
     
  6. Phreak3

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    that's the funny thing about google... they make all these cool things.. but all their money still comes from search engine ads. if a better search engine came along.. everyone migrates. poof. it's not like an operating system or a microprocessor, where it's really difficult for a consumer to switch out.
     
  7. Uprising

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    damn....I want....
     
  8. TheRealist137

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    Google has a chokehold on the search market and I highly doubt they will lose that. Bing hasn't even made a dent yet. I do feel that Google is trying to diversify their business, which is good. Android is a major player for the future of google.
     
  9. YallMean

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    I thought this gigabit thing is 10 year old. No?

    But isn't it scary though, two p*rn movies in a second.
     
  10. YallMean

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    BTW, 3D p*rn on the next is going to be the next big hit.

    p*rn industry is the technology trail blazer on the net. Online streaming and pay per download, who started it? Not Amazon, not Apple.
     
  11. wakkoman

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    Google is the CIA.
     
  12. Royals Ego

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    isnt the whole 'converter box' switch last year a plan to free up valuable 'frequency' to be bid by major corporations for nationwide broadband

    wasn't google leading the bid? i think they won the bid...

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  13. Depressio

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    This is mostly why I'm excited. They can prove that current Internet providers are simply screwing their customers and perhaps this country can get decent broadband speeds.

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    It doesn't have to be 1gbit, but something competitive with Japan would be lovely.
     
  14. justtxyank

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    Oh man oh man I would love this so much.
     
  15. Space Ghost

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    America is 3.7M Sq mi. Japan is 146,000 sq mi. That is over 25x that of japan. Additionally, people in America will not accept this to get those kind of speeds.

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  16. Depressio

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    Don't act like every square mile of America has to be covered in order to get decent broadband to the majority of people. I'm not sure if you noticed, but there's an awful lot of empty space in America, much more so than Japan.

    Our population is not as dense as Japan, so while the wires will have to cover more distance, there will not be as much wire craziness as in your pictures. It's funny that you make a point that distance is a factor in the US, then make a point that density is too, as if America is as dense as Japan across the 25x larger surface area. We're more spread out here, so density isn't a factor, and I don't think distance really is either.

    Are you trying to say it's impossible to achieve Japan's average broadband speed? Really? Have an open mind. Oh, right, you're a conservative and anti-progressive, aren't you?
     
  17. Space Ghost

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    Nice. Lets bring up ones assumed political stance that has nothing to do with the topic. My pointing out your flaw in your logic has what to do with politics?

    Ok first and foremost. Your little handy graph is an average graph, so yes, you need to compare apples to apples. There are people who can't even get dialup in the US. Wireless and satellite feeds are no where close to getting to the point where you can get blazing speeds. I understand in your world rural people don't exist, but there are those who are very happy if they can manage a 5mb connection.

    Second, look at the pictures again. That is how you get 60mb's. You string fiber like its silly string spray. That just isn't going to happen. People will not let it happen and the utility industry is regulated to prevent that from happening. Thousands and thousands of miles of fiber will need to be trenched and buried or strung out to each and every house, and thats just in the urban areas.

    Third, the Japanese design their infrastructure to allow them to easily upgrade their infrastructure. Their businesses and houses have chases designed to easily run cable. This makes it very time consuming and expensive in the United States to upgrade even at the end user.

    Even our backhauls are running at max capacity, and those are constantly being upgraded. Perhaps in your mind all we need to do is get a couple more servers, run a few extra cables and flip a switch and we can get a gigabyte connection. We are simply too big of a country to do massive rollouts in short amount of times. The US is a VERY different country compared to our smaller counterparts. It is always a failed argument to compare us to other countries.

    So in summary, this has absolutely nothing to do with an assumed anti-progressive attitude and all about the the vast cost, manpower, and implementation.
     
  18. Depressio

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    I was just going to take your word for it, Space Ghost, but then I used Google.

    http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/04/03/the-cost-to-offer-the-worlds-fastest-broadband-20-per-home/

    Of course, you're probably talking about the sort of thing Verizon is doing which would be for extremely fast speeds (1gbps). I was talking about being competitive with Japan's average, or at least making such a speed available at a decent price. Is 50mbps for $60/mo too much to ask? No.

    Google seems to be attempting to do a proof of concept in bringing fiber directly to households. I'm sure they'll do some sort of cost analysis. Something like this would be instrumental to increasing broadband speeds across the United States and pushing providers to doing so.
     
  19. Nolen

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    Well, what's great about this is we'll see someone roll out a (supposed) gigabit network to a community or communities, and be open about the cost. Then we'll get to see just how vast that cost is.

    Does anybody here really think that Time Warner, Comcast, and others have lobbied themselves into regional monopolies and duopolies so that they can compete hard and bring the best products to consumers for the lowest price? Phht. Anyone who loves the free market and competition is psyched about this move.
     
  20. Commodore

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    I just moved to Kansas City, can't wait to try this out.
     

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