That is my guess. NYT's article alludes to it. According to that article, Google never really established itself in China since its first emergence in the Chinese market. It trails Baidu there mightily. I imagine heavy filtering rules, such as what terms cannot be searched, and other regulations imposed by the Chinese govt probably also have worn Google out over the time and Google finally decides that the cost and hassles are not worth its effort in China. However, Google probably needs China more than China needs Google in the long run. I think Google will eventually make peace and compromise. Just wait and see.
Did you write this post yourself or just pirate it from another netizen? I would try to figure it out but my google translate doesn't work with your posts anymore...
Here is the story from www.shanghaidaily.com, which is roughly the same story as from People's Daily: [rquoter] Google says it may end operation in China GOOGLE said on its official blog that it is considering to stop operating in China and to shut down its offices in China, reported People's Daily online. The blog entry signed by David Drummond, SVP, Corporate Development and Chief Legal Officer of Google, said the company is not willing to continue filtering search results on its google.cn Website as it once agreed to impose on itself when the Chinese-language Website was launched in 2006. "We will be discussing with the Chinese government the basis on which we could operate an unfiltered search engine," the blog said. "We recognize that this may well mean having to shut down google.cn, and potentially our offices in China. "We want to make clear that this move was driven by our executives in the United States, without the knowledge or involvement of our employees in China," it said. [/rquoter] Anybody notice what is missing?
China violates IP law, and other companies never set foot in that country again. Guess what? China is going to get get old before it gets rich. China is done for.
It's called critical thinking, Sammy, had you had half a brain I would have recommended that you try it sometimes. Unlike your worthless rant, I am insightful. I've read the impending doom of the Chinese economy for three decades now. I'm still waiting...
Here's what sucks about this. I use blogger, picasa, gmail and facebook. They are all google product that can not be accessed in China (atleast most of my family and friends in China can't access it). So I'm forced to just send them stuff over the internet through msn. I can see myself start using less google service and rely on other services because of this. Off topic somewhat, people in China are using the internet quite extensively, but the amount of identity theft protection is low. Now it has not been a big problem in China in the past but I can see it becoming a bigger problem in the future, especially since people start using the internet to trade stocks, sell stuff, eventually do banking. Once money start becoming a bigger part of the system, with it's heavy piracy (average users has a lot of software to patch, downgrade or turnoff "security" features that are also designed to prevent piracy) and disregard for products with spyware, it can become a potential nightmare situation.
It's amazing how in an admitted authoritarian state where censorship is the norm, this army of Chinese hackers can work with impunity as they attack the hell out of foreign companies and governments. China takes its sovereignty very seriously but not so much the rest of the world.
Overreaction much? I know this is D&D. But seriously? Just because I said "talk big"? *Sigh* The much more wordier version of what I meant: I mean that if google were making billions in China, they would likely approach this in a more tactful way. Not in a very straightforward, challenging manner.
It's good to see a company do what's right and stick to their Brand Mantra and DNA. Google walking away from $300 million in revenue - sure to grow if they stayed, it a refreshing decision. Nothing against the Chinese gov't, but there's a weird twisted irony in American companies helpign the Chinese gov't control and oppress it's own people. I'm glad one company will stop. I don't know what the long-term implications are. Probably not much to be honest. The Chinese lose collectively with restrictive search engines. Information today is what gold was 200 years ago. The free exchange of ideas is what spurs creativity and innovation. And China can not lead in innovation if ideas are restricted and controlled. Limiting peoples ability to find information - which really is what search engines for - limit their value and therefore their use. How many of us would use a calculator that couldn't subtract or divide?
Because China had an elderly problem in its urban centers for three decades, right? Any economist worth his salt will point out that China has until around 2015 to have a pension system in place, euthanize their elderly, or experience severe reductions in buying power by the younger citizens who now have to use their limited income to support their elders. This happened in the US. This happened in Europe. We responded by finding cheap migrant labor who would contribute to buying power but not requiring assistance when they get old (as in they're expelled). The US and Europe are already rich. So is Japan. And Taiwan. And South Korea. And Singapore. And Hong Kong. And the Gulf States. China is not rich. It will never be rich. Just like the USSR was never rich. UNTIL NEXT TIME!
There is always a pension problem, a social unrest, a gap in earning of the rich and poor, a food shortage or whatever to that effect, that threaten an economy, be it China or otherwise. Any economist worth his salt would also had stated that had China not had an aging problem, it would had a huge population problem, like India, or like Africa (if not for their monstrous death rates). Any economist worth his salt would have also told you that the Chinese population had, and have always had a much higher savings rate than the US, Europe, the Gulf States, or even Asian rivals like Japan, South Korea, Singapore and Hong Kong. Any economist worth his salt would have also told you that China has much lower debt levels than every single economy in the world. Period. The fact is, every economy in the world face problems. Your idiotic pending doom prediction on China would be like me harping Singapore's lack of water supply and suggesting that it is finished.
You take great satisfaction to see those "cheap labor" disposed like used cloth when not needed anymore and becoming a liability. You must be having an orgasm by demonizing and belittling China...and the people residing in that country. Yes? No? Is this called heroism, patriotism, nationalism or jingoism, sir? Whether what you said is right or wrong is up to debate, but the way you say it is not even funny. Or you're an angel in a wolf's clothing. haha. p.s. most "experts on China" turned out to be laughing stock. Gordon Chang is an example in case you don't have a clue.
Clearly, I was discussing this from an amoral point of view. If wanted to talk about satisfaction, I'd talk about how in the United States "cheap labor" has more rights than Han laborers do in China.
Chuckled at the bolded. China can easily respond by finding cheap migrant labor from its rural areas, where the one-child policy is a huge joke and no one takes it seriously. I don't disagree with the premise that China is going to have an elderly problem in the near future. I just find it hilarious that you feel that China can't match the US solution of migrant workers. Labor is utterly, ridiculously, almost painfully cheap in China, and will be for the forseeable future.
The Chinese authorities could and should do this. But the problem is that the party has no sense and prevents this from happening. Rural-urban migration was sharply curtailed by Regulations on Households Registration issued 1958, which extended and formalized a system set up in 1951. (Chan and Zhang, 1999) “...[the] hukou system can be said to be the last stronghold of the centrally panned economy...” (Cai, Du, and Wang, 2003) Without the proper urban hukou an individual is unable to obtain many economic, social, and political rights and privileges accorded to urban residents, such as *access to the best urban jobs, particularly those in government-owned enterprises. (Although this sector is declining relative to the rest of the economy.) *access to subsidized staple foods (no longer important) *access to public schools (now theoretically available to some temporary hukou holders but in practice may not be available). access to other social services, including health care and other social safety net items. *equal protection under the law—subject to police harassment. *Marginal product of nonagricultural labor around 1990 was approximately 5 times greater in urban industry than in rural industry. This ratio narrowed by the late 1990s. *Marginal product of agricultural labor remained at about 15-20% that of urban industry. *Urban places in Anhui and Hunan were selling “urban citizenship” in the late 1980s *“Blue-Stamp” Urban hukou were formally endorsed by the central government in 1992. *“Legal” in many “small” cities and towns, SEZ’s and the like, and some large cities such as Guangzhou and Shanghai. *They are NOT transferable among cities, so do not constitute full nongzhuanfei. A substantial fee is required and full urban benefits are not granted. Obstacles to Eradication of Hukou System? *Loss of political power from granting favors *Protection of urban “elite” jobs, incomes, and social-security benefits (health, schooling, pensions) *Lack of universal social insurance *Challenge to urban infrastructure (schooling, sanitation, transportation) Sorry China.
Wow you could be an angel with some compassion, after all. That being said, you probably will not give a damn about the laborers in China or the cheap ones in the US when the big corporations and the state capitalists exploit them as long as you get fed by all the "junkies" they produced......
Yes your insight gives us a window in to the rationalization of the typical Netizen in denial, in this instance, your statement that piracy is OK, nobody can complain, and Shanghai can be the international knock off capital of the universe because it hurts legitimate chinese retailers profit margins. LOL.
No matter what, I am better than you and you can die after being used as a tool to bring out what I need... Yeh, always victory for me. Bravo.
