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Goodbye Ron Paul

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by CBrownFanClub, Jan 8, 2008.

  1. pippendagimp

    pippendagimp Member

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    jo mama, why do you have so much hatred in your heart for the un-extreme as well as the un-paranoid :D
     
  2. Rashmon

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    "Paul says he didn’t write the letters, that he denounces the words that appeared in them, that he was unaware for decades of what 100,000 people were receiving every month from him. That’s an odd claim on which to run for president: I didn’t know what my closest associates were doing over my signature, so give me responsibility for the federal government."

    Quoted for emphasis since jomama refuses to see the Paul flaw.

    Reminder of what was contained in these newsletters: http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=74978161-f730-43a2-91c3-de262573a129

    "These stories may be very old in Ron Paul's life, but they're very new to the American public and they deserve to be totally ventilated," said David Gergen, a CNN senior political analyst. "I must say I don't think there's an excuse in politics to have something go out under your name and say, 'Oh by the way, I didn't write that.'"

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/10/paul.newsletters/
     
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  3. weslinder

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    He's not leaving yet!

    http://people.ronpaul2008.com/campaign-updates/2008/02/09/this-candidate-doesnt-quit/

    This Candidate Doesn’t Quit

    A few news sources are misreporting Ron Paul’s e-mail from last night. The presidential campaign is not ending, not being suspended, and not even drawing down. It’s slimming down and ramping up — with over twenty states having already voted, we’ve shed staff, and we’re concentrating financial and organization resources on the remaining states. We’re going to the convention, and we’re fighting for every vote and every National Delegate along the way.

    Republicans do not want John McCain to be their nominee. He has only been able to become the front-runner because the field was so divided and because he’s a media darling. We can see just how unpopular McCain is in the heartland by his performance in the Kansas caucuses today. Kansans resoundingly rejected the Arizona senator, and McCain’s big wins so far have mostly been in blue states — states he won’t win in November if, heaven forbid, he’s the Republican nominee.

    Republicans want and need an alternative. Some people think Mike Huckabee provides an alternative to McCain. But Huckabee, who now tries to sound like Ron Paul when he talks about abolishing the IRS, raised taxes in Arkansas and vastly expanded spending in that state when he was its governor. Huckabee is no alternative at all. Ron Paul, on the other hand, has never voted for a tax increase, never voted for an unbalanced budget or for an unconstitutional war or government program.

    At stake here is not just the Republican nomination — which McCain still has not locked up — but the future of the Republican Party and, much more importantly, the future of our liberties. We have to organize in every single state, including the ones that have already voted in the primaries and caucuses, to continue the fight to take back the Republican Party and to ensure that Ron Paul’s principles, the principles of Washington and Jefferson, prevail. For the sake of that cause, Ron Paul’s campaign continues, all the way to the convention.
     
  4. jo mama

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    so it took you a whole month to go from this...

    and...

    to this...

    im glad you no longer "beleive" that paul wrote the newsletters. it takes a big person to admit that they were wrong. kudos to you!

    so now that you acknowledge that the racism accusations are b.s. you turn to name calling? pretty sad and pointless.

    ron paul has received more donations from active duty military than any other republican candidate (i think only obama has more). are those members of our military who support paul "extremists" too?

    yes - i was waiting a whole month for your studied analysis.
     
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  5. LScolaDominates

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    jo mama-

    I'm proud of you for not denying that you're a paranoid conspiracy theory enthusiast. It's a big first step that many living in your alternate universe never take. The journey back to reality will be long and arduous, but I know you can make it!
     
  6. rhester

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    I beg your pardon, I believe I've earned that title in D&D.

    Don't go accusing others of something I worked hard to acheive.
     
  7. Master Baiter

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    I'm reading Crossing the Rubicon because you have mentioned it so many times. It is very interesting and much longer than I expected.
     
  8. jo mama

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    i had heard of it before rhster, but his constant referencing of it is what got me to read it. pretty disturbing when its laid out like that.
     
  9. LScolaDominates

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    My deepest apologies.
     
  10. plutoblue11

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    Ron Paul is what we call "Old-Fashioned" Conservative -- you could say in the context of history and lineage of the party itself --- he's great model for it.

    Most Republicans and conservatives on Capitol Hill --- are probably neo-cons, who are socially conservative, liberal spenders , pro-big government (not really for state rights), pro big business/coroprate entities, pro Zionists, and are pretty much classical Democrats and libertarians. Some of them used to be crazy liberals and far-left Democrats....while I know few ex-Republicans who have become somewhat libertarian (not totally)......Pat Buchanan and Bob Barr.

    But I am wrong, because I forgot that both parties subscribe to ideas above, if you don't you probably won't win an election There is no such thing as Democrats and Republicans anymore......they should be called Republicracts.

    I am not a republican.....i hate 99% of republicans out there now (not personally, but ethics wise)....but most of the wars in the last 100 years or so have happened under democratic presidents....Democratic president confiscated every citizens gold during great depression. The Democrats were originally against a federal bank. These good doers even supported some very unpopular and repressive dictators, just like some Republicans. Republicans were the party that was more in favor of abolition. It was mostly Democrats who decide to hand the countries banking over to international bankers.....tycoons in other words. Another unnamed president adovocated for League of Nations, but luckily he was stopped by the Senate. We can also think Democrats for something that annoys alot of people --- Social Welfare.

    but on the same hand, republicans aren't so rosy either. There some things that are just as bad or even worst. In the end, it doesn't really matter most are probably bought

    Our society is too over-reliant on BG aka Big Brother. People don't mind being watched in the streets, having them peek in on their accounts and less, having their liberties taken away, not mind fight in foreign wars that have absolutely nothing to do with us, rampant spending of taxpayer dollars, money disappearing over night, expanding powers to unelected or non government orgs, support dictators and certain terrorists groups, and etc.

    All I have to say Big Brother deserves all of the credit it's getting in. Both parties have done fine job giving away America to the elite class and outside entities. Even though, most people think they have our best interest in mind and that one day they will save us from doom, like some knights in shining armor.
     

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