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Good thing they have gun control in China

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Bandwagoner, Aug 9, 2008.

  1. Bandwagoner

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    No I am saying good thing that China is so smart to have gun control otherwise people would commit random murders and violence like in the USA.
     
  2. Refman

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    I second your hope that the wife pulls through. This is a tragedy.

    I do find it interesting though that when this happens in China, it is the fault of the crazy Chinese guy. Nobody is talking about further restricted access to knives. When somebody in the US gets shot, it is because we allow people to own guns.

    I promise you that if you are going to be mugged, robbed or otherwise threatened, I'm exactly the kind of guy you want to have in your group.
     
  3. Major

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    When someone kills somebody with a knife here in the US, we don't talk about restricting knives either. Probably because knives have lots of legitimates uses besides injuring people.

    I'm sure if people were going around shooting each other all the time in China, you'd have people trying to ban guns there too... but I guess since they are banned already, people don't go around shooting each other all the time.
     
  4. Major

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    What exactly would you do if you were being mugged?
     
  5. Refman

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    That all depends. I had a law professor who was in a parking garage downtown. He had his concealed handgun on him. As he was walking through the garage (late at night...after the opera), he felt very uneasy. It turns out, that there was a mugger there. He had his hand on his gun BEFORE the knife weilding mugger got to him. He drew his weapon, told the mugger not to take another step toward him. The mugger turned and ran away.

    You can use a gun to diffuse a bad situation without actually hurting anybody.
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    Yep because advocates of gun control always believe that with gun control there will be ZERO violent crimes. It isn't as if they are hoping for a reduction, they are stating it will be absolutely zero.
     
  7. Major

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    Certainly - but without knowing the state of mind of an attacker, you can also escalate a situation by pulling a gun. When an amateur criminal sees a gun, they are much more likely to panic. And if they have a gun themselves, they are much more likely to use it as a weapon than as a threat.
     
  8. Bandwagoner

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    Well gun violence would be absolute zero.

    Like has been mentioned before you really need to ban knives, and then tall buildings.
     
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    Honest to God, I can't believe a thread about a knife-wielding madman killing ONE PERSON in a country with very serious gun control has turned into an argument AGAINST gun control. That logic is super-strange to me. Madmen looking for random kills with a gun usually fare a bit better than madmen looking for random kills with a knife. Or so it seems.
     
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    Exactly. I don't see how Casey even brings gun control into this with a straight face.

    Casey: I wasn't disputing that gun control is important to you. My point was, there are about a million and one better arguments for your case than this.
     
  11. Bandwagoner

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    yeah probably goes in this order

    bombs then cars then guns then knives then bats then hands
     
  12. Major

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    Except cars, knives, bats, and hands all serve other legitimate purposes other than injuring people.
     
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    I want an APG and the 2nd Amendment says I can.
     
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    I don't think anyone expects it to be zero, just a reduction.
     
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    What is an APG?
     
  16. Bandwagoner

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    yeah but how much will we take before we say enough is enugh, building should never be over 20 feet high!

    Think of all the lives we would save.
     
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    Anal Probe Gauge
     
  18. Major

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    How many lives would we save? Do we have a big issue with people throwing each other off three story buildings? :confused:

    I would think people would have enough when a car or bat is designed specifically to kill people. Or in the case of cars, we already regulate and track them given that they could accidentally kill people. No one seems to have a problem with that, though.
     
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    Some people might be inclined to say that rights comes before liberty/life...

    Would ethnic/racial profiling save lives?...It probably would have in 2001, but we don't do it just to save lives because of certain rights...Same thing with guns...In the U.S. the Supreme Court affirmed this right...No guns in fantasyland absolutia would save lives, but rights take precedent...If you start dissolving rights,...you set a scary precedent for those in power to look to other rights which can be infringed for the ultimate purpose of "saving lives"...i.e. wiretapping, etc.

    It is a double edged political knife.

    The best thing is to drink the kool-aid and come to an understanding with the enemy within...
     
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    You really think that we regulate and track cars because people can die in accidents? Sure, that is the reason for having mandatory vehicle inspections, but license plates and registration is, IMO, due more to the fact that criminals often flee in cars. Cops can run a check during a routine traffic stop. In fact, many offenders are caught in that manner.
     

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