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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by bigboymumu, Feb 22, 2001.

  1. MManal

    MManal Member

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    Couple of things that need to be straightened out. First off, purely on a cap room standpoint, the Sixers or Mavs do not have enough to sign Chris Webber. Even if Philly renounces Mutombo, they still would only be able to create at most about 5 mil in cap space since they are way over the cap right now which is not nearly enough to ink Webber. Dallas wasted about 7 mil of potential cap room today and is no longer a factor as well in a straight signing.

    As far as sign and trades scenarios.... It makes no sense for Sacramento to take on overpaid, underperforming players (Juwan Howard) or old players that will command a load of cash on the open market (Dikembe Mutombo). Sacramento would become a re-building team without Webber and would want young to young vet type players with reasonable contracts. Thus, the main team I am concerned about is Orlando (Armstrong, Miller and Outlaw could be a very enticing offer). I just cant see Allan Houston ok'ing a contract to sign in Sacramento sans Webber.

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  2. dream_team

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    if it comes down to a sign & trade to sac for CWebb, i don't see why houston can't resign Mo and offer Cato and Mo? That may be the best offer Sac may get... That would be an exciting team that can really get up and down the floor fast. mo will also bring them that post player that can score they will miss with webber gone... and cato will bring the shot blocker they miss with webber gone, and not to mention, divac is getting pretty old. of course sac will prefer to keep webber, but they should do pretty good with this hypothetical trade.

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  3. R0ckets03

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    Is there any way in hell we can keep Cato, Hakeem, Mo and sign Webber? We renounce Hakeem. Webber gets to sign for the maximum or close to it. Mo signs another short term deal to get bird status. Hakeem takes a significant paycut. A team of
    Hakeem
    Webber
    Shandon
    Mobley
    Francis

    A bench of
    Cato
    Maurice
    Kenny
    Moochie
    Walt
    is freakin AWESOME!

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  4. R0ckets03

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    Of course Les would declare for bankruptcy with all the jack he would be handing out [​IMG]

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  5. Sane

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    If you think Mo would sit on the bench, even if we'd have the chance to win a title, then you need to re-think it.

    The only reason Mo signed with us, and not Seattle (thought to be a contender at the time), was because he could start here.


    Here's what I think:

    NY: NY has a huge chance of getting this deal done. They simply have to trade Allan Houston, Marcus Camby, and Othella Harrington for Webber and throw-ins. Why wouldn't Sacramento do this trade? Their front court wouldn't be that much weaker. They'd get much better at C (Camby over Divac<who will retire>) and at PF they get a nice PF who hustles, rebounds, and scores. Then, they get stronger than they were in the backcourt with the addition of Houston. Houston would like to play here since he can have quite a few more shots than he had back in NY, and they would be a 5th or 6th seed in the playoff race. Now, THAT might hurt cause he wants to contend, but I think he'd like the idea. Sacramento stays just as good, but a little less powerful in the frontcourt, and a little better in the back court. For NY, the big prize, Webber. They'd have a problem at C though. But they can pick it up through trade or one of the throw-ins (Funderbuke?). Their starting five would be Funderbuke, Webber, Rice, Sprewell, and Mark Jackson. That's easily a 1 or 2 seed in the East.

    Sac: It's over, and thank god, cause that makes brings them a little closer to our category of teams, and since the chemistry will have to be re-built, they might fall to 8th in their first season. But I seriously doubt he'll stay.

    Orl: Boutlaw, Mike Miller, Pat Garrity and Andrew Declerq for Webber and Turkoglu. This is a beautiful trade for both teams, and it works both ways. Sacramento would have anice young core. Stojakovic will play some PF, Outlaw will play some SF. Christie and Mike Miller would have to fight for time at SG/SF. Andrew Declerq would be their C, and Pat Garrity would be their 6th man. Orlando would get a dream team in a starting five of Amaechi, Webber, grant Hil, Mcgrady, and Armstrong. OH MY GOD. Webber wanted a contender, here they are, they could contend in any of the Conferences. People say, there aren't many shots to pass around. But Webber and Hill aren't like that, they're playing for a title, and they'd give up that much to win one. Mcgrady has said he'll share the ball to, but I'm not so sold on that. So this trade works.

    Houston: What CAN we trade? we have nothing to trade. it would be extremely stupis to trade Shandon cause we promised him long-term commitment. I'd like to make it clear that wehaven't promised Mo anything, just that we'd see if it would work out. But still, he's an FA, and he won't count against the cap. Shandon will play out his contract to hit the jackpot or sign for the early bird. Franchise and cat aren't going anywhere. cato is our only viable option cause Hakeem either retires or signs for a contender, I'm positive. We'd have a whole lot of capspace, so either we just sign him, or we can pull a three way deal where we can send Walt and a couple of picks out and Sacramento gets what they want from the third party (Antonio Davis?). We do have a lot to offer, sucj as the Steve/Cat backcourt, and a definite playoff spot and he has family in Houston, and the weather's great and he loves the coach. But then again, what do wehave that Orlando doesn't have exactly or better?

    I see it happening, but only if Sacramento decides that they're making Orlando too powerful and don't want to creat a contender.

    Look guys, it could happen, but I think we made a little mistake by saving our caproom for him, cause the chances are 20%(yes)-80%(no). I think we should stick with Mo, let the team grow together for a couple of more years and we could be serious contenders. Webber is having his best season, it doesn't get better than this, so it's downhill from here. I'm telling you, he's hit his prime, and he won't get better. On the other hand, our guys will hit their prime at about the same time. cat is a lttle older so he'll mature a little faster (thank god), and when they're between 27 and 29, i hink they'll be a 1 or 2 seed in the West. We just gotta stick together, an build huge chemistry just like (I hate to say it) the Jazz.


    What do you guys think the chance is of getting Webber percentage-wise? I say 20%(yes)-80%(no).....




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  6. ROXTXIA

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    Allan Houston won't allow himself to be traded to Sacramento. He loves NY. If he feels they just want him around so they can trade him, then the Knicks can watch him leave for Detroit. Houston at the 2 and Stackhouse at the 3 with a top 10 draft pick (center) on the way would really improve Detroit.

    Orlando's trade, as you proposed, might happen, but would give Webber very little $$$ (I'd take it, but would he?)

    As I said before, he might go East to get farther away from Sacramento. But I like our chances. I liked our chances better before Mo started playing so well, but Hakeem won't be around forever---hell, he might not be around next year; maybe that's why we didn't deal anyone to Miami, the Heat thinking they can have Dream for next year's exception.

    The only thing that Webber said that stays with me is he wants to stay in the West in a big city. Dallas? No. Houston? Yes.

    50-50 we get him.

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  7. bigboymumu

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    Do not forget about the new arena and the potential night life downtown. I really think he is coming here!

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  8. TheBlum

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    I don't think we should go afer Webber. We should re-sign Taylor and Anderson, re-sign Hakeem, and go after Stojakovic. If we can't find some poor schmuck to take Cato of our hands (biggest mistake in Rockets history) we should at least have Hakeem hear to teach him a few things, like how to stay in shape and how to catch the ball.

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