Good luck in the pro's Chris, from one Longhorn fan.

NYKRule:

.... you only saw one person do this?

How recently have you looked at the polls? Duh....

 

We have been talking about what people think on these boards for 3 pages now. Does anyone have a vote over here?

 

NYKRule:

Actually, repeated references to the polls have been made by Cat. My language certainly did not specify people on these boards. You might have made a mistake in reading... but such certainly cannot be blamed upon me.

Mistake corrected, all is fine...

 

Bah. People are biased against Texas. Cat nailed it. When people ranked UT ahead of OU when both had 1 loss... everyone b****ed.



Where were all these Texas haters when we were the highest ranked 1-loss team earlier in the season?

This woe-is-me / everyone-hates-us crap is pathetic. The media doesn't hate Texas and it doesn't hate the Rockets. People need to get a grip.

 

I think when/how you lose is important. That's why I somewhat agreed with UT over OU in the polls. WSU lost to a UW team who I feel would lose to Tech. It's all subjective, I know. That's why it won't matter what we think. A pollster could put UT at #25 and as long as he can justify it, it doesn't matter.

I think UT should jump WSU and OU this week. It would be right, imo.

 

Also, WSU jumped us in the AP poll.

 

I think when/how you lose is important. That's why I somewhat agreed with UT over OU in the polls. WSU lost to a UW team who I feel would lose to Tech. It's all subjective, I know. That's why it won't matter what we think. A pollster could put UT at #25 and as long as he can justify it, it doesn't matter.


I agree. The polls are just a conglomeration of views, and like it or not, there's a perception out there that UT is OU's b****. As such, generally, if a pollster is debating who to put higher if the two teams have equal losses, that will play a part.

Personally, after this week, I'd certainly put TX over OU, but I don't really have a beef with someone who flips the two. There's no conscious effort out there to screw Texas.

I just get annoyed (moreso with the Rockets) when people b**** about a lack of respect or a media hate of a particular city/team.

 

Major:

I'd agree with the Rockets... but I do think bias exists w/college fooball.

Some teams simply inspire more emotions than others. ND, Texas, FSU, Miami... they're all going to get lauded more when they play well... but also hit harder when they lose.

Kirk Herbstreit is on record as saying that his analysis and ranking of Texas took into account he fact that Texas had done "less with more" than OU.

That's bias. If he thinks OU really does own UT... that's one thing. But if he's penalizing UT for underachieving with their talent... that's not fair. You'd dispute this?

 

Some teams simply inspire more emotions than others. ND, Texas, FSU, Miami... they're all going to get lauded more when they play well... but also hit harder when they lose.


But that's not anti-UT (or anti-anyone) bias because it works both ways. I have no doubt that what you say above is true -- certain schools get the benefit of the doubt much more. However, I just feel that it works both directions. As much as the media "hates" UT right now, they "loved" us earlier in the season.

Kirk Herbstreit is on record as saying that his analysis and ranking of Texas took into account he fact that Texas had done "less with more" than OU.

That's bias. If he thinks OU really does own UT... that's one thing. But if he's penalizing UT for underachieving with their talent... that's not fair. You'd dispute this?

I don't have a problem with this either. Basically, he's penalizing us for having crappy coaching, which is a legitimate part of the team. He's just saying that we may have all the talent in the world, but the coaching pulls the ranking down. The fact that we did less-with-more reflects on the quality of our team and would probably affect his future expectations about the team (choking in big games or whatever).

 

Well darn, I had some great Bedlam quotes to put into my sig before the game.......I guess none of the smack talk will work now though

 

Right here, bud:

Your words, not mine.

Fine. I'll certainly do top 5 if you want. Hell, I'll bet on top 10 or 20 if you want. It won't make a difference, IMO.

 

No, I said the money I would make from that bet was a sure thing, not Simms' performance in the NFL.

Let's just have it at top 15, I guess... top half of the first round.

 

Also, duke, UT beat OSU, thus your equation is proven wrong.

 

if OSU would've beaten UT like they should've, they'd be the Big XII south champs right now. Unbelievable. If they didn't have such a tough schedule next year, I might pick them to contend for the Big XII.....right now I'll say they'll finish at least 3rd in the South. What an offense


And about the equation: OSU owns OU. OU owns Texas. Am I right? Or are we gonna bring up the wins from the early 1900's again?

 

But Texas also owns OSU. So by that logic, it could be UT>OSU>OU.

And no, OSU should not have beaten UT... they needed a bull**** touchdown run (obvious hold missed) to make it close in the fourth. Bob needs to teach his defensive backs the definition of playaction...

 

Bob needs to teach his defensive backs the definition of playaction...
Or he can teach his brother to teach HIS defense.

And no, OSU should not have beaten UT.
Yes, they should have. If not for a botched extra point attempt, OSU would possibly be heading to the BCS

 

Based on what? Texas played one of their worst games of the season offensively, and Roy Williams was out. Yet, it was still 17-3 until an obvious hold sprung Tatum Bell for a touchdown to make it 17-9. Texas was completely looking toward OU, probably played their worst game of the season, and OSU got the ball on our side of the field down 2 points with 2 minutes. With virtually every variable in their favor, OSU still couldn't win. There's no way you can suggest they should've won or that they were the better team.

 

Or maybe it's a blowout if Texas doesn't miss three very makeable field goals.

 

There's no way you can suggest they should've won or that they were the better team.
They DEFINITELY aren't the better team......I'm just saying they should've won because of all those things you mentioned. I don't think we're really disagreeing here....

 

Oh, I misinterpreted what you were saying. Still, I don't know if should've won is the right term... more like could've won. Even with the variables in their favor, winning in Austin is a lot to ask for them.

Maybe them staying so close to Texas gave them even more hope for OU.