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Good job by Bush

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by francis 4 prez, Sep 14, 2001.

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  1. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    What has he done to be "pathetic"?
     
  2. moestavern19

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    G Dubb was born for this job .
     
  3. fromobile

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    I guess I'm just so astounded that the man has never had to actually express himself in detail verbally to the public. Everything is so generic. I have not heard one thing out of his mouth that I haven't heard before. Not only does he say nothing, he says it in unoriginal ways. "The democrats have taxed you too much, I want to give some of it back to you", "we're going to fight for freedom...etc"...stuff like that. He's a chimp. I can't believe you people see it as comforting or something. I can't understand.
     
  4. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    So, what is something "original" you would have him say with respect to this tragedy? Personally, he has come across as sympathetic, compassionate, determined, resolved, eloquent and presidential during this time of crisis. I am not looking for sound bites. I am looking for leadership. So far his leadership has garnered unprecedented support from the global community. Granted, the "event" may have had more to do with that than the individual, but the support is there, all the same. The American people currently give him a 91% approval rating, again, it is disproprotionately high during this period of extreme patriotism, but at this point, he has the overwhelming support of the American people with the way he is handling this crisis.
     
  5. fromobile

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    Maybe he's scared that people will listen to what he says and only hear what they want to. This happens a lot apparently, as I have stated twice that I am not talking about wanting him to be more jazzy, or exciting. However, despite my posts, that is what is heard. Perhaps our country is too dumb.
     
  6. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    You say you are not talking about him being more jazzy or exciting, yet in each of your posts you are criticizing him for being "unoriginal", "pathetic", "short spoken", "transparent and awkward", "underhelming". You complain about the way he conducts himself and then say you are not complaining about him being jazzy, exciting or smooth.

    WHAT IS IT YOU DON'T LIKE ABOUT THE WAY HE IS HANDLING THIS SITUATION?
     
  7. MrSpur

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    Bush has done a great job.
     
  8. treeman

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    Someone said it earlier, that Bush was born for this, and I don't think that's an overstatement. The truth is that until this tragedy his administration has been faltering, seemingly lost in purpose. Well, he's just been given one hell of a purpose.

    IMO he has taken exactly the right tone, and has been doing exactly the right things so far. The first night, when he gave his first address, he apparently rejected several drafts of the address that he thought were too "revenge-oriented", too rash, etc. That patient, methodical attitude I think will prove to be far-sighted. I immediately wanted blood, but since I've had a chance to think I've come to the realization that I'd rather do it "right" and "in a big way" than just do it.

    Another thing about Bush is that he's apparently somewhat deferential to his aides - a vital quality in a man who doesn't know everything. He knows his shortcomings, and is aware that those around him probably have better ideas than he does. Which is good - he's assembled the best possible cast of wartime leaders one could hope for. He's basically surrounded by the people who orchestrated the Gulf War - and I couldn't imagine a better cast of wartime advisors... And GWB will listen to them, a trait Clinton lacked.

    I normally lean Democrat, but I echo another sentiment expressed here earlier - I'm glad Republicans are in charge now. These Republicans in particular.
     
  9. fromobile

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    I haven't been impressed at all. All he's said is basically that we're going to bomb people, and that we need to unite, have resolve and blah blah blah. He definately hasn't shown any signs of being less of a piece of a machine that is his administration. What exactly is it that he said that has had made you people so happy?
     
  10. francis 4 prez

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    What exactly is it that you would like him to say.
     
  11. Manny Ramirez

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    Yes, please tell us...
     
  12. rockHEAD

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    i just hope he doesn't put us in a situation that we (americans) can't handle, a war on two fronts, abroad and at home, these terrorists and their fatwa... these people are nuts...

    i hope he thinks and re-thinks his decision. maybe military action is not the answer.

    maybe we need to beef up our own security here at home and protect whats important to us! our homeland.

    rethink airport/airline security and make immigration more difficult??

    arghhhh, i don't know...

    :confused:

    rH
     
  13. DAROckets

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    Being of eloquent pose has nothing to do with leadership abilities. Hitler was said to be a very engaging speaker,look where that got Germany. :eek:
     
  14. fromobile

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    How about, "I shouldn't be running this country, the fact that you elected me is a joke."

    I don't have anything I'd like him to say, I can tell you what I'd say if I were him, but that seems off of the subject. I just can't understand how you people can feel comforted by him. "we're gonna smoke em out"

    Being able to express complex ideas in a complex situation is a feature of leadership abilities. I'm not saying he needs to look good. Anyone here who thinks that it is appropriate to use a hick accent and hunting metaphores when speaking of sustained acts of war against other countries is an ass. This is not a simple enough of a situation for him to be making 30 second addresses about "fighting for freedom" and horse sh#t like that. This is not a simple situation. The CIA trained Binladen, the CIA spent 6 billion putting conservative afghani leaders into power in the 80's to give the russians trouble, innocent peoples lives are at stake, there are reasons for everyhting that should be examined at least....I'm not saying we shouldn't attack, but I am saying that most people are extremely ignorant of what's going on in the world, and too dummed down to even try and figure it out. To think that this is a simple situation, with good guys and bad guys is absolutely moronic, and anyone who thinks so should be ashamed of themselves. The very idea that our own leader is sitting there feeding us this crap like it's Gerber Baby food, and you people are pretending like he's doing some great sensitive job is....well....sad.
     
  15. Behad

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    Hitler pulled Germany out of a great depression and restored its military from ruins. He was a great leader for his country. HOWEVER, this does not forgive him for his hatred of Jews and his desire for world domination. But his "engaging speech" did wonders for his country.
     
  16. ZRB

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    I think he his handling the situation well enough.

    I would definitely rather have Gore, Clinton, Clinton, Clinton, or Clinton in office, but I think Bush has shown that he isn't a complete twit.

    I don't think he is the right president for this situation, but this is certainly the right situation for him. Good luck to him. Until this situation dies down a bit, I will tone down my making fun of him (the sig stays). Hopefully this unfortunate situation will distract Bush from enacting any of his policies (anti-abortion, Alaska drilling etc).

    If his entire administration centers on destroying terrorism, then I think that his four years will be acceptable. I still don't see him being re-elected. Afterall, Bush Sr. had his war, and still lost to my main man Bill. Blah blah blah blah blah...



    Blah blah..

    I'm rambling...

    Good luck Bush, keep up this level of "presidenting" and we might just make it through this situation.
     
  17. francis 4 prez

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    Well then please call me sad. I don't see him feeding us anything like baby food. He has addressed the nation's pain and has conveyed to us what actions our nation plans to take. Other than that, what should he be doing. I would also think that his 90% approval rating would speak to the fact that most people are in favor of the actions he has been taking since the tragedy.
     
  18. fromobile

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    Most people got Milie Vanili a grammy dumbo, I don't give a rats ass about aproval ratings. Who cares if he's making us happy, what about being responsible for the large numbers of lives he's about to end. I'm sorry you feel that hunting metaphores are appropriate. You're wrong.
     
  19. glynch

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    ZRB, I had written my own post, but yours was just about perfect in tone.
     
  20. Behad

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    Nevermind
     
    #40 Behad, Sep 16, 2001
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