percicles, You are something my man! Mentioning both "Disintegration" and some Aphex Twin is something that I didn't think I would ever see from anyone here other than myself.
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Blood Sugar Sex Magik NOFX - Punk in Drublic Descendents - Somery Bad Religion - Stranger then Fiction Dr Octagon - Dr. Octagonecologyst Pearl Jam - Ten Jawbreaker - Dear You
Any music list that someone likes is going to be subjective. Going back to my 80's rant the difference that I see between the 80's and the 90's is that there was a bigger variety of music that was getting wider airplay along with music that was more visceral and less formulaic. There was some great stuff from the 80's and stuff that I personally enjoyed but a lot of the music of the 80's seemed to get formulaic very fast, and often seemed about how to slap on synth beats onto other music rather than seeing the possibilities. So you've got bands like Naked Eyes and Soft Cell that are virually indistinguishable along with ZZ Top and Eric Clapton adding synthesizer to what they've done before and repackaging it. The 90's, and any decade, had a lot of formulaic stuff too but IMO it seemed like more risks were being taken by musicians and there was a far greater variety.
I don't know if assimilation has anything to do with it. By the mid 90's I had pretty much given up on commercial music and then I was mostly listening to Chicago and Delta Blues and Zydeco. That might have something to do with assimilation or it might have more to do with alienation.
While I would never say that OCP is better than Prince, even if Jack Bauer was about to cut off my thumbs, I don't agree with the record sale argument. Its sort of like saying why does Fall Out Boy and Panic! at the Disco sell more albums than say Band of Horses? The problem is most people don't bother searching and finding new music, and thus the music is brought to them by MTV or Fuse. Thus when they have never heard about someone like Sufjan Stevens, Arcade Fire, Band of Horses, Mew, etc.. they only have a limited choice of what to buy/download. Its just an popularity contest based on ignorance.
I don't know much about OCP, but I'm down with OPP. <object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/rvQ9-cZoQP8"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/rvQ9-cZoQP8" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>
80s was more a visual decade the advent of MTV changed music forever Visually it was very dynamic and to an extent over powered the music 90s were a backlash against that . . but still the taint stuck the anti-fashion was the fashion type of thing the same for the music. . . . just like folx hated on Disco folx hate on 80s Music 90s music went through a alot of DEPRESSING music too where it seem some folx wanted to see who is more bummed than the next guy it had its formulas to with music. . if someone makes a million dollars doing it the next group will 'discover' the sound too the decentralization of the music industry will go along way to slowing that IMO Rocket River
Well it was kind of a joke but my point is that not everything in art is subjective. Some things suck and some are good.
Agree the 80's were more visual than the 90's as people were trying to figure out MTV. Agree also the 90's did get formulaic also. Once Trent Reznor got big you had a bunch of depressing bands, along with several Green Day clones. That said I still think the 80's got more formulaic and the use of synthesizers really seemed to standardize the sound from a lot of bands. My rant was mostly subjective and wasn't necessarily about saying the 80's was so much worse than any other decade for music but more that I was getting sick of how much the 80's seemed to have been inflated in people of my generation's mind.
The '80s had more of a "fun" feel to them. I think that's what people are nostalgic for. That, and their youth.
Sure I'm nostalgic for my youth. That doesn't mean I don't also recognize that most of the music and fashions of that time was crap. Listening to us Generation X'ers we're rapidly sounding like codgers going around "Back in my day..."
I like doing that. I already yell at kids to get off my lawn while blaring Shock the Monkey and wearing my Vans and OP shirt. It's fun. BTW, I like '80s music over '90s. It's not even close.
Just go ahead and include them. The 90's needs all the help it can get lol. Though its already been included, GOTTA include some grunge/alternative and rap if Duncan Sheik and Tal Bachman's getting named. Some 90's music: --Afghan Whig: Gentleman *album, 1993* (Underrated album for its era. At times grungy, but Greg Dulli's a ******* MAN. Still listen to this one) --Toadies: any album, same thing --Counting Crows: August and Everything After (Everybody only bought it for "Mr Jones" but I ended up liking all the other songs much more.) --Silverchair: Neon Ballroom (Say what you want about them, "Emotion Sickness" is just a darn good rock song. And describes the theme of what I'm liking here) --Fuel: Shimmer *song* --Goo Goo Dolls: Faded *song* (Just gives me those "90s" memories) --Deftones - My Own Summer (Shove it) *song* (This is when I wanted the 90's to end....) Non-Rock, for hip hop its simply --Timbaland, Missy Elliott: they can't be overlooked. Totally infused a new brand of creativity to hip hop and R&B. And how many people are they helping get platinum hits TODAY still? And the biggest guiltiest pleasure... -- Savage Garden....dangit, just couldnt resist the sappiness lol
