I thought her support was "broad and deep" but as soon as she can't sign one of their books her fans turn against her. Hilarious.
so are you threatening to get your wife and kids and your whole clan into this conversation? forgot about this?
Of course it wasn't the reason she gave. She's not a liar, right? Everything in her book is true, right?
There is a panel that decides who qualifies for what procedures under a qualified government plan (which all citizens are forced to have), it's the same panel that recommended for women to wait later to get mammograms. The panel can be overridden by the HHS secretary, but that's just as scary.
There is a "panel" that decides this under any insurance plan. Calling that a death panel is not something that a "genuinely good" person would do.
If I had two options deciding what procedures I could have and couldn't have, I would rather have a panel from the govt. decide because they aren't driven by profit. Corporate panels are driven profit and they make money by denying procedures. But claiming that either panel is really a death panel is a lie.
If the health care reform bill with the public option passes you will STILL BE ABLE TO CHOOSE YOUR INSURANCE PLAN.
The insurance company can't legally deny procedures you are entitled to under the plan you purchased from them. And speaking of denying procedures, how do you think the government plans to keep costs down? By denying procedures, just as this panel has already started recommending with cancer screenings. You could call it a mischaracterization (I wouldn't). Lie doesn't really fit. It's a panel that decides what will and won't be covered, rather than the individual finding a policy that gives them the coverage they want. The panel is already making life and death recommendations regarding cancer screenings. The "death panel" nomer accurately emphasizes the seriousness of what is happening. A health insurance company might have a panel that decides what kind of policy they will offer, but it's the policy that determines what's covered, and it's the individual that chooses the policy. Where I work we get a benefits package with a large menu of coverage options. If this gets passed that will all go away and be replaced with government mandated qualified plans.
and you will still be able too under healthcare reform Oops! I guess I should finish reading the thread before commenting.
Insurance companies including mine have done it all the time. You could call it a mischaracterization (I wouldn't). Lie doesn't really fit. The statement made by Palin was that the govt. death panel would let Trig and grandmother or mom or whoever die because a govt. health panel would deem them less worthy to society. That's a lie. The insurance companies do have panels that decide on each requested test or procedure from the doctor. They decide on each requested prescription from the doctor. It isn't just buy the policy and then everything is covered. The doctor can't just recommend 30 tests and insurance will automatically cover them all. People get denied for things all the time. It's how the insurance companies make money. Since they are private corporations they are in it to make money. They get money by paying out less for procedures, treatments, and prescriptions. It is far better to have someone not in it for profit making those decisions. I don't know where you work, but unless it's a very small company they have to offer you an insurance plan. The company still has the option to offer everything they currently offer.
^^^It's just amazing to me how uninformed people who are against healthcare reform are about the current plan
Please, for the love of God, do some research. If the current healthcare bill gets passed, the current system is not going to "all go away and be replaced with government mandated" plans. Employer plans and private plans will continue to exist, but the public option provides a low cost alternative for people who do not have those other options. Its like people who watch Faux "News" feel they don't have to do any research on what Hannity and Beck tell them.
Obviously the her death panel statement had no basis so she mentioned Trig to use him as a shield against critics just the same thing you are attempting to do right now. You do not want to discuss the accuracy of the death panel statement and use Trig as your excuse. Now you answer my question you r****d: Does Obama have a death panel which decides to terminate/kill people?
yea iknow first hand, have been paying for top notch private insurance coverage for 10+ years, best you can buy, i didn't have too many complains except here in there until it came down to a family member's major illness and there was a treatment that had a 50 percent shot in working otherwise it was bust, this remember is one of the most expensive and in depth plans and we have been there as a family for a while with this company....they ruled it experimental and left us with nothing..... when the company's interest(profit) don't align with ours(good health) there is some field's where it just shouldn't be privatized..
