that's right guys - he meant to intentionally lead his shoulder into johnson's knee and that, as we all know, is cool.
So you think Green had malicious intent? If not, then drop it. He basically didnt know how to properly go about making a play in that situation. He had horrible form that led to a very dangerous play for both players. End of story. The sad part about this is TJ's reaction in the locker room. He has a right to be pissed, but his stupidity got the best of him.
I think this is a case that even if a player suits up for your favorite team... I don't know if you can defend his actions, or his statements. That showed a complete lack of class and respect. Johnson was mad because he could have potentially been seriously injured.. well, Green was seriously injured and that much was immediately clear. Indefensible IMO.
What possible motive would Trent Green have for injuring Travis Johnson? The guy was probably scared out of his mind since he's probably thrown like 2 blocks in his entire NFL career, and tried to take out his feet and went about it the wrong way. There is absolutely no way this could have been premeditated. It was a busted play and a freak accident sort of thing. You can't possibly think that Trent Green was thinking before the play "Man it would be nice to have an excuse to take somebody's knee out" You're ludicrous, ludicrous. And I can't believe I (a Raiders fan of all people) am defending Trent Green on this, but saying Trent Green tried to take out Johnson's knee is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.
Also, Im the biggest homer here...I defended Carr until the very last day. But in this case, I just cannot support TJ. BTW, He has been a bust since day one. The guy has Okoye on one side and Mario on the other side and he STILL SUCKS! Cant wait until the day he is no longer a Texan.
I dont think Trent Green was inentionally trying to injure TJ, but he should have known that a block like that is very dangerous. It wasn't malicious, but it was reckless and stupid.
exactly, and just because he got hurt doesn't mean anyone shouldn't have said anything. remember when warren sapp took out that green bay lineman on a fumble, and mike sherman said something to him after the game. sapp hit that guy up high and some people had a problem with sapp. why not take issue with green, that was far more dangerous.
That incident is irrelevant, Sapp hit a guy 40 yards behind the play for the hell of it. Green was trying to make a play to help his team, There was no malicious intent in what he did. He did it poorly and could have injured Johnson, but he didn't he only ended up injuring himself. AT THAT POINT, nothing else matters but the health of Trent Green. The way Travis Johnson went after him after the game you would have thought Green started swiping at his knee with a crowbar.
Cheap shot by Green. And like someone said earlier, it's like feeling sorry for someone who breaks their hand by hitting you in the face.
i think his intent was to protect himself; he says as much in his text to peter king. so no, he had no malicious intent; just a premeditated intent to lessen the blow he absorbed at the expense of someone else. it was reckless and cheap; gutless. i can't believe anyone would defend it. there's an unwritten rule in any athletic endeavor - the knees are off limits. he disregarded that. purposefully.
If you watch the play...the WHOLE play, you can see other Dolphin players taking out Texans one by one. Good solid, high hits. If the defender doesn't see you coming....hell you can be 6'8 400lbs, you're going to either be stopped in your tracks or be uploaded on. Some of you have opinions and never even sniffed a football field. A couple of you said that running backs do it all the time...We'll you're right! The only difference is.....THE DEFENSIVE PLAYER SEES IT COMING!!!!!!!. That's the whole point here.....let me say it again. THE DEFENSIVE PLAYER SEES IT COMING!!!!!!!. You can not chop block a player when that player in engaged with a blocker. It's against the rules. So when RB's go low on defensive player.....the defensive player can defend himself against it by bracing himself. Totally legal When smaller guy in the secondary tackles a larger offensive player, the smaller guy usually goes low, but the offensive player sees the tackle/impact coming. Corner backs and safeties hit low all the time, but they only do it to get the larger player down and the larger player sees it coming most of time. I played defense...If I saw a player with the ball and he didn't see me, why would I waste a golden moment going low on him when the chance to knock him out (going high) was there? I know why i wouldn't go low....it's because I was taught that it was dirty when they couldn't see it coming. In Trent Greens case.....He's says that how was he suppose to get Travis down because he was so big..........BullSh!t. Might I remind all of you that Trent is 6'4 220. Travis was in pursuit of ANOTHER player....all Trent had to do is deliver a high block and that would have either up ended Travis or knocked him off course. What he did was stupid. I'm not saying that Trent tried to hurt Travis, but it was stupid and he could have really ended Travis career had he hit his plant leg. So whose the victim? I'm upset because that taunting penalty kept their drive alive and they eventually scored. I don't judge him for what he did 5 seconds after the play and how could any of you. You put yourself in his position. You get CUT while you weren't looking and there was chance you could have had your knee ripped up and injured your neck in the process. This is silly...it's almost like a black/white issue. sad
Last I checked, TJ was running towards Trent...Trent didnt come from the side. It was a horrible play by Trent Green...however, TJ was the one running in one direction with his eyes looking somewhere else. It wasnt a blind side block.
The block was not legal, and its dangerous. We know that much. Doesn't change what T.J. did. So that gives T.J. the green light to taunt and mock an unconscious player? When is that ever ok for a player to do anyway??? And then once he's seen the guy carted off the field, knowing his history, its ok to make the ridiculous statements which he did WITH TIME to think about what he is saying? No class. Embarrassing.
Did I say it was a blind side? No. Travis was in pursuit of another player......THE WHOLE WORLD KNEW IT. That would mean Trent knew it as well and decided to take him out by going low. A stupid play to make against a player that's not coming after you and that would mean that Travis didn't see it coming. He could have ended his season or worse, his career. I can't believe some of you were watching the same play. He could have taken Travis out the play without going low.
Trent Green knocked his own ass out with a stupid, sloppy "block" that sent a 300-pound man cartwheeling. It was 100% Green's fault that he's laid up with a concussion. It was a bad block that could have ended TWO careers. If Johnson's foot had been planted, he's out for another season and the TJ experiment in Houston is likely over. It's 100% Johnson's fault that the Texans were assessed a 15-yard penalty. I don't know if screaming at Green out of anger is actually "taunting," but the penalty was called, so I suppose it counts. Once Green didn't get up, it looked pretty bad. What Johnson said in the locker room is immaterial, as far as I'm concerned. Obviously he was pissed and he doesn't have to be Green's friend. Again, it was GREEN'S fault that Green got hurt (and he wasn't hurt badly).
Uhhh...arent all blocks made to players that arent coming after the guy making the block? I dont get your point. Usually, every time a player gets blocked, its because they are going after someone else.
The block is illegal. Point taken. I doubt Green was thinking "wow, nice opportunity to take out someone's career here" judging from people have always said about his character. But fine, we'll never know what he was thinking. Regardless, that didn't give T.J. the "right" to taunt him while he was unconscious, like an idiot. Its what T.J. did after the play. And then he had time to think about what he was saying and still made idiotic responses. I'm sorry, he's a professional football player.. that means you conduct yourself in a certain way. It was ok to make a fool of himself and mock an unconscious player? He could have gotten hurt. But he didn't, and he wasn't.. and he knew that. On the other hand, he knew Trent Green was hurt and danced over him.
