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Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by robbie380, Oct 7, 2007.

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  1. kaleidosky

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    Can't believe this... not sure if it was pointed out earlier. But in the espn recap of the injury..

    "Texans defensive tackle Travis Johnson hit Green in the head with his knee before Ginn was tackled by Anthony Weaver."


    Really? They're gonna go so far as to say that Johnson HIT Green with his knee? Right, so he took it off and clubbed him? Ridiculous..
     
  2. doboyz

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    I'm thinking because the WR's actually see the CB's and aren't blindsided.
     
  3. Achilleus

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    lol...
     
  4. conquistador#11

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    So what should be done?
    A. a fine by the texans?
    B. suspend him for a quarter of play?
    C. maybe go denver broncos and not allow players to give interviews to the media? (TJ called the media over)

    I think there was nothing wrong with him taunting green, as soon as that hit took place. It was the post game comments that bothered me.
     
  5. candlegreen

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    Heh. The incident really isn't a laughing matter, but I'm trying really hard to not burst out on that last part.

    As for your question, I think it has to do with a few things: being blindsided being one; being tackled from behind by the leg/ knee/ etc as to being blocked off in front (assuming that's even the situation), and just based on the necessity of the situation.

    I was not pleased to see how ESPN phrased that crap. They're clearly milking it for all its worth.
     
  6. moestavern19

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    I think Green was trying to take his legs out and he didn't get down in time because he was expecting Johnson to see him and try to avoid him, but instead Johnson just kept going full stride and knee'd him right in the cranium. The taunting penalty is something that happens, But yes.. it was the post game tirade that really bothered me.
     
  7. Hey Now!

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    running backs slide into DEs and LBs knees "all the time"? really?

    he said as much; he's a p***y. he had a clean shot at johnson. if i'm not mistaken, another player was wiped out of the play completely by a thundering, non-knee-targeting block.

    green went low; slid - watch the play. he's 58-years old: he knows damn well what could happen doing that. hell, we all know - it's not like you need to have ever played football to understand the consequences of sliding into someone's knee. your rationale is: well, green could have been hurt if he had blocked him properly, so it's OK for him to potentially hurt the other player to avoid injury.

    bull. and ****. like travis said, **** trent green.
     
  8. emjohn

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    It appeared to me that Kubiak put him on the bench until midway through the second half. But I was at the game and was only watching for him here and there.

    His on-field tirade still bugs me a lot, especially because it was a big factor in their touchdown. Went from a major loss to 15 yds & a first. Again, he's an idiot and a douche for taunting a guy KOed and face down in the grass.

    Evan
     
  9. david12sfa

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    Ok I know this is off topic but it just came through that Jake Delhomme is out for the season and David Carr is now the starter! Ha ha ha! :eek:
     
  10. Major

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    No, they block them low all the time. If you had quoted the entirety of what I posted there, you would have been able to see that. Instead, you decided to only quote the last part and then distort it. Good job. Here is what I stated:

    He tried to block him low - of course. As he pointed out, how else was he going to block someone substantially larger than him. Running backs do that all the time in blitz pickup when there are oncoming DE's or linebackers.

    Was that really difficult to understand? Why the need to distort what I say in order to argue with it?

    Yes, a guy who was not a quarterback and had time to aim and target was able to wipe another player out of the play with a legal block. What does that have to do with a stationary Trent Green, a QB with little to no blocking experience, doing to block a 300 lb man coming at him full speed?

    No, my rationale is that, as you say, it doesn't take a genius to know what will happen if TJ's knee hits TG's head, which tells me that it's not likely that Green tried to go after TJ's knee with his head. I'm suggesting that your claim that Trent Green was intentionally malicious and going after his knee is silly. It seems far more reasonable that Green badly executed a legal and reasonable low block attempt.
     
  11. ima_drummer2k

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    Looking at the video, TJ (who I'm not a fan of) could have very well had his leg snapped in 2 and his neck broken all on the same play. I'd be mad too.
     
  12. Tha TC

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    there ya go fixed it for ya

    all he had to do was push him in the back he had the opportunity to even like another poster said hell nudge him with your shoulder just put him a little off course and he would have been there for the 2nd and 22 or whatever the hell the down would have been
     
  13. Tha TC

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    *edit*illegal and unreasonable

    Oh and funny enough now Trent Green is saying that he was going for TJ's feet... his feet?!?!?!? his f'ing feet!
     
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    Sorry, you are incorrect sir. The block was very LEGAL. It might be dirty, but it is protected by the NFL rule book.
     
  15. rezdawg

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    By the way, Green didnt blind side him...TJ was running in his direction. Its not his fault TJ wasnt looking straight. Are blockers only supposed to block people that see it coming? Thats ridiculous.
     
  16. Mr. Clutch

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    Yeah, that's what TJ is mad about. Not so much the fact that he almost lost his knee and career.
     
  17. rezdawg

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    Im referring to people talking about blindsiding...not the actual block. Thanks for reading.
     
  18. moestavern19

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    Its the truth, and the most effective way of taking down a bigger player. As I alluded to before, do you think Green intentionally lead into Johnson's knee with his head? Is Trent Green that stupid? NO.

    He was going for a low block down by the feet hoping to trip him up and it went horribly wrong (for him) and Johnson could do nothing but add insult to injury but saying he was trying to cheap shot him.

    Travis Johnson is a fool.
     
  19. rezdawg

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    Im with you on this.
     
  20. Hey Now!

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    your added context added nothing: are you arguing RBs block low? ok. not relevant, because green didn't "block low;" he slid into johnson's knee.

    stationary? he slid into him.

    oh, ok - so he was going after his knee with his shoulder and missed. MUCH better.

    i've watched the play 451 times (which, based on comments like, "a stationary Trent Green," is 451 more times than you) and i fail to see how there's ANY justification for green's block.
     
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