It's freakin' football! Why do people watch inherently violent sports and then b**** and complain that these guys aren't saints? They go for the blood, they're hunters, not boy scouts. What, you think these guys are 'sweet teddy bears'?
For starters, AgBee: http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=135271&page=22&pp=20 TJ should've put that cheating prick in a wheel chair for life - Green deserves it. Angkor Wat (same link) Sorry but Trent brought it on himself. Karma is a mothaf*cker. Bobblehead: http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=135271&page=21&pp=20 Green deserves what he got. What did he expect trying to make a block at the knees? ... I'm not saying Green deserves to be brain damaged or anything like that...but sometimes karma prevails!
Was this a serious post? That's pretty terrible, if it was (although it was not in this thread, along with the other ones you mentioned). But you said "for starters." So please post more if you have any.
I went through 2 pages of a 20 page thread. You asked "who said it" - I gave you three examples. If you'd like more, please feel free to read the entirety of the thread and find them yourself. As far as whether it was in this thread, I'm not sure why that's relevent. The original post you responded to was: Some on here are just a low of a person as Johnson is by trying to stick up for him and by saying Green deserved it. It didn't reference this thread at all.
I look forward to the day when Travis is no longer on this team. Could have the lowest IQ of anyone on the roster, poor character/heart, and this helped solidify him as a douche. You just taunted a guy face down and unconscious. He was 100% justified for being steamed, but it should have taken one look to know Green was seriously hurt. Again, I look forward to a Texans team that does not include Travis Johnson. Evan
He doesn't have to. The original poster ripped those who were saying Green "deserved it", you asked who, and three examples were provided. That's plenty. The point was that that sentiment existed within the fan base and that sentiment is reprehensible. The point was accurate.
screw it i'm going to say it... Trent knew the risk and he got what was coming to him. That was not a LEGAL BLOCK... it can be translated as clipping, chop blocking, etc. What really upsets me is the fact that the NFL has become the league to "protect" the quarterback... I'm sorry i do not and i repeat I DO NOT feel sorry for Trent Green (nor JP Losman for that matter after that hit a couple weeks ago as he saw that coming). TJ did not see Trent coming he was in pursuit of Ted Ginn Jr. Trent was not trying to get out of the way or duck like one of the other posters said thats just frivilous. He was tryin got take TJ out of the play... now would i say it was a malicious hit? No, Do i think that it was intended to go for the knees? No. The play was over with and was damned near dead Ted Ginn was going nowhere on that play except out of bounds or to the turf. Now what i cannot condone is TJ's comments afterwards they were way out of line and not callled for in any place except in privacy of the locker room with no one around to hear it (as we all know he would have said it anyway). From someone who has had a serious knee injury and my cousin got his acl and mcl blown out on the same kind of "block" TRENT GREEN WAS IN THE WRONG! But i know Roger Goodell will come down hard on TJ If anything regardless of concussion or not Miami should have been penalized for the block and then texans should have been penalized for the taunting and the penalties should have offset.
Three examples, one of which might be a stupid joke and the other saying he doesn't think Green deserves to be injured, is an example of a sentiment existing within "the fan base ?" That is a sentiment of two, maybe three people. When I was asked the original poster who had said he "deserved" it, he told me to look in this thread, the place where he chose to post the original message I replied to... That is why it's important to note that none of the "examples" were from this thread, Major.
Anyone hear Golic's comments regarding this... He basically completely absolves Johnson of his emotional response, but says he would have done the SAME thing. Coming from someone who played on the Defensive line... all of the emotional responses from people who don't understand what actually went on.
Most people that have played football at a high enough level will understand Johnson's anger during that play. Not his post game comments, however...
TJ's comments were terrible, but it was Green's actions that almost seriously injured both of them, and could have ended both their careers. I feel bad for Green, and I don't think Green was intentionally trying to make a dirty play, but as a 37 yr old QB he should be a little more careful out there.
everything you need to know about trent green is summed up nicely in a text he sent his BFF, peter king, aka the champion of older, nice white QBs: "He outweighs me by over 100 lbs. Where shld I blk him? TG.'' uhm, TG, being a giant, gaping p***y does not give you the authority to throw your body at a player's knees. TJ never saw green - green could have nudged him with a shoulder tap and johnson would have been knocked off course. end of discussion. TJ didn't have to be STOPPED; just stalled, diverted. so, of course, green goes low and hits him right below the knee. i'll be stunned if TJ didn't hyper-extend his knee. what green did was cheap. you NEVER go for a guy's knees; ever, in any situation. TJ's only mistake was wasting his breath taunting an uncnscious player. so he wisely waited word that green was alive, alert, and OK, and justly ripped him. best of all, i now have a new shirt: God don't like ugly
So you're saying you not only condone his actions but you're actually going to immortalize them? Maybe Johnson should make a big deal about this since its the only time in his career he's gotten a good hit on a QB. You guys are being extremely homerrific right now. Like the other guy said, Some guy on the Dolphins does that to Schaub and you guys are gathering pitchforks right now. Try to be objective.
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When blocking someone, no one ever thinks "let me do the minimum necessary and hope for the best". If you're Trent Green in that situation, you have no idea where Ted Ginn's going to go, who all else is blocking and where, whether there are any lanes or anything else. You try to make the best block you can. If you can get the guy on the ground, that's the ideal. As for Green "going for the knee". That's just bizarre to me. He tried to block him low - of course. As he pointed out, how else was he going to block someone substantially larger than him. Running backs do that all the time in blitz pickup when there are oncoming DE's or linebackers. The idea, theoretically, is to go low to stop the legs from moving instead of getting bulldozed by a larger player - not to hit the knees and cause damage, of course. Unless you believe Trent Green was actually trying to ram his head into a 300 pound man's knee, it's pretty clear that he didn't execute his block the way he had hoped. Given that, what makes you think he was trying to go for the knees as opposed to just trying to get down to go low like many smaller players do against linemen? From the article you quoted: The bottom line: The only way Green knew he had a chance to get Johnson on the ground was by taking his legs out. In the last few years, defensive linemen have railed against low blocks, feeling that blocks at the knee and below endanger their careers and should be banned. The league hasn't outlawed them despite the annual protests to make them illegal. Defensive players get enraged over this. Offensive players say, in essence, that if it isn't a clip, a defensive lineman should be able to be blocked like other players on the field. And the league has never been able to muster a three-quarters majority to get the block outlawed. Maybe this block will change things, but I doubt it.
honest question: why is it okay for CB's to tackle guys by throwing their bodies at their legs/knees/shins but not for blocks to happen in the same manner? You'd think both would be frowned upon or neither.. (not counting when a lineman is engaged...that is clearly a penalty)
