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"God don't like ugly, you know what I mean?"

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by robbie380, Oct 7, 2007.

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  1. rezdawg

    rezdawg Member

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    No, there was nothing illegal about the block put on by green. You cant make that kind of block from the side or behind a player (clipping)...but what Green did was 100% legal, with regards to the NFL rule book. The players have been trying to have it changed, but havent been able to do so.
     
  2. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    woody? do you mean skip. why would it be surprising. not watching at work, but skip gets a bad rap. you may not like his opinion, but he always backs it up.

    i like oberman, but he was the idiot last night on nbc, he said nothing of green's role in the play other than getting hurt.
     
  3. rcoleman15

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    Sorry I don't know why but I always confuse those two when it comes to their names. But you are correct it was Skip. The reason I was surprised is because when the name Houston is mentioned he generally rails on our teams and players.

    Again sorry for the confusion on the names.
     
  4. Rockzilla

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    They agreed that it was a low block, but they didn't say that they agreed with the reaction Johnson did.
     
  5. msn

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    Who are we to judge? Well, perhaps we shouldn't judge Travis Johnson as a man based on that one episode. However, we can and should judge his behavior during that episode. Especially if your kid was watching that game and the interview afterwards with you.

    His behavior was undisciplined and out of control. His statements were insensitive and reprehensible. He lacked discretion and any sense of self-control. At the very least, have the balls to keep f-bombs away from microphones and camaras.

    I just don't follow the NFL as much, so I'll have to defer to you here, but it seems I've heard a lot about "cut blocks" and "blocks below the belt" previously. As dangerous as it *looked*, I'm frankly surprised if it hasn't already been addressed. Injuries happen, that right there was just ugly. There was the distinct possibility of two life-threatening, career-ending injuries on that one block.
     
  6. Achilleus

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    Who has said Green "deserved" it, low person ?
     
  7. msn

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    Man, I need some more coffee...
     
  8. rcoleman15

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    True but they still said it is a block you do not do (something about it being one of the unwritten rules of the NFL) and while they didn't say they agreed with Johnson's reaction they did say they understood why he reacted the way he did.
     
  9. ima_drummer2k

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    Well, that's bloody picky, now isn't it...

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  10. Rockzilla

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    Read the thread and you'll find them.
     
  11. Achilleus

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    :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
     
  12. Rockzilla

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    Are you that lazy to where you won't look them up yourself?

    Look on the 2nd page then.
     
  13. Achilleus

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    The only two people used the word "deserved" were either mocking Johnson or trying to translate what his post game comments meant (the criticized him). Are you too mentally lazy to understand that, low person ?
     
  14. Achilleus

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    who* then*
     
  15. Rockzilla

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    I said a few people was saying that Green deserved it. It's not like I said that alot of people was saying that. Jeez man.
     
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    I saw the play, and as it happened, before all the slow-motion replays showed exactly what happened, it was all very fast, and was a big busted play, and more than one monster block was thrown on pursuing Texans, not just on Johnson.

    Johnson was hot, as he probably had every right to be, regardless of whether or not the blocking player was seriously injured. After all, he had just got chopped at the knees from the blind side at a full run, and more than one player has had his season ended by such a thing.

    It's an emotional, violent game, and someone had just committed a pretty big sin against him.

    In a very short amount of time, he went from pursuing the runner, to being blindsided at the knees in a play that, frankly, was miraculous for only having one seriously injured player instead of two as a result. He was back up quickly, made sure the runner was down, and turned to find who it was who had chopped him. He was clearly angry (even though I am not a mind reader ;) ), and was going to get into it with whoever it was.

    He did not know who it was, nor did he know the condition of the player at the time.

    He let fly with his anger, from what it looked like, although I would imagine that if he had known to what degree the player was injured, he would have held his tongue. 'Heat of the battle' kind of thing. Poor judgment, but still, while not entirely excusable, at least it was understandable.

    But Green.. man, what was he thinking? No, the block did not look illegal to me, it just looked dangerous. It was a fluke that Johnson's knee hit solidly on Green's helmet, but both of Johnson's knees were in serious jeopardy from that hit. It's actually really surprising that he did NOT get seriously injured on that play.

    However, Green was extremely foolish for putting himself in that position. If he had not already missed a ton of time with a very serious concussion problem in the past (and that is a problem that only gets worth with each successive hit to the head - it NEVER 'gets better'), then it would have been more understandable. But this guy, no way he should have been doing anything except trying to keep himself from getting hit. He definitely should NOT have been launching himself head-first into the legs of a speeding 300+lb man.

    More than likely, that was the final play of Trent Green's career.

    As for Johnson's post-game comments, I have not seen or heard them, so I cannot say, but from what I have seen on here, it sure seems like he could be using better judgment in that regard. So maybe he's not a saint. At least he's not an Albert Haynesworth.
     
  17. rezdawg

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    He might play next Sunday. It looked a lot worse.
     
  18. msn

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    Nice post; I agree.

    Aaahahahahahh!! Nice reset! :D We *can* read his body language, and we was clearly angry indeed!
     
  19. candlegreen

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    Doesn't make it "clean." That type of block should be looked at by the NFL as taking out the knees of a 300 pounder is pretty career threatening.
     
  20. candlegreen

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    Should listen to the Mike and Mike's take on it. They mentioned that part too. It was pretty funny imo.

    But they backed T-Johnson on that one, fully.
     
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