Travis Johnson is exactly right, green looked like an idiot trying to make that play. Travis is a smart guy, he's been know for good quotes since fla st. he does keep it real. he was accused of rape at fla st. beat the trial. the media asked him how it would feel to win two games in a row i believe, and he responded by saying it would be better than getting aquitted. the guy is brutally honest and i'm sorrying for green, but a guy with a history of concussions making that play is even dumber.
I'm interested to hear what Trent Green will say.. terrible block attempt.. horrible taunt (although it was a heat of the moment thing so can't be too mad) he did come out and apologize to the media, coach kubiak, and his team after his first post game interview in the locker room..
Yeah, you know, Trent has practiced chop blocking so many times in his career, Im sure he really knows the correct way to do it against someone twice his size. You're making Travis Johnson look smart.
What's hard about going for someone's legs? Both sides of this argument have made reasonable points; no one here is "making Travis Johnson look smart." Where I stand (as if that mattered for anything): I can see TJ being upset at someone having gone for his legs whether intentional or not. However, his immediate response on the field indicates a lack of personal discipline and self-control in the heat of the moment. His response after the game indicates a more troubling lack of self-control, and a lack of discretion. Regardless of whether Green's obviously illegal and dangerous block was intentional, Johnson's response was childish and downright troubling, especially the postgame parts.
What do you mean whats so hard about going for someone's legs? Having a split second to decide how to properly block someone twice your size, running full steam at you is pretty difficult...specially for a 37 year old man with no training in blocking. And I have no problem with TJ being upset...its the way he handles it and the things he says. Totally uncalled for. Actually, just listening to him talk should clue people in on how brain dead he is.
TJ's comments were ridiculous, but I have to admit, I laughed...Did he know Trent was knocked unconscious, probably not, as someone just went for his knees... I"m glad the Texans won, but comments like this for an under achieving former 1st round pick is dis-heartening...
I'm just not sure I by this. He's a veteran. He may be a QB, but he's thrown a few blocks in his 25 (at a minimum) years of playing football, I can promise you. And, at 37 years old, he knows how dangerous it is to get hit in the knees, and he knows how dangerous it is to lead a block with the head. That's why what he did is so puzzling. I'm not saying it was intentional on Green's part, but there's nothing stupid about wondering. We are in complete agreement on this point.
Looking at the form he used to block, I think its quite obvious he was completely clueless...Ive watched the replay a bunch and it just seems like he wants to get the hell out of the way, so he drops his body. I doubt, given his history of concussions, that he would want lead a block into a 300 pounder with his head. Completely horrible technique on his part.
Get out of the way? By throwing oneself into the legs of a 300 pound man running full steam? I agree though, horrible technique.
Dude, he cant run away from TJ...he needs to do something to avoid looking like a girl. Unfortunately, he sucked at making the block and it cost him.
there's not a coach in the nfl that's wants his starting qb doing something like that so he won't look like a girl. green is thirty seven and has a history of concussions, everyone on the field would have understood.
You dont think Green wants to help his team even if it means putting himself in a dangerous situation? Come on, these guys are football players with egos. No way he actually runs away from contact. Edit I also dont think Green had much time to make a decision on avoiding contact or not. The play was broken and before he knew it, Green was in a situation where he had to do something on the spot. Like Ive mentioned, if you look at the replay, it looks like he is scared of blocking and just ducking.
You gotta be kidding me. You can't be mad? The dude taunted him while he was laying there motionless. And for some to say that Johnson didn't knew he was hurt, that's a bunch of BS. Of course he knew Green was hurt. Usually when a guy is laying there with his face facing the ground and not moving, that means that you are hurt. Some on here are just a low of a person as Johnson is by trying to stick up for him and by saying Green deserved it. I'm sure you would've think differently if Jason Taylor did that to Schaub. Yes, it was a low thing to do by Green, but in no way he should of been taunted. Sure, Johnson could've done that if he gotten back up. I wouldn't have a problem with that, but to do it when he was done and out, that's a different story.
Rockzilla brought up an interesting point. Imagine this. Imagine we tried to run a reverse and the play gets completely broken up and out of hand. Lets say Schaub attempts to do his role in salvaging this play. In the process he tries to get in the way of Jason Taylor, goes at his knees and removes Taylor from the play. Schaub gets knocked out. In the meantime, Taylor gets up starts yelling as he's walking towards Matt...stands over him and continues to taunt him. After the game, Taylor says that "he had respect for Schaub at 12:01, but around 12:20, F Matt Schaub." I think we'd all be defending Matt in that he was just a QB trying to make a play and that Taylor is a scumbag for taunting a man while he's obviously hurting badly.
Again, if a 300lb man is running, I'm *more* afraid of his knees than of his shoulders and chest. This part of the argument just doesn't make sense to me--but I haven't seen the replay as much as you, I must admit. I disagree. That was a dumb, ill-advised, illegal block. Some of us would be defending Matt, most of us would be saying the other guy was cheap, but some of us would be asking why he would have done something that stupid. Not the way I understand it. But, I could be way wrong. So, help me out here. As I understand it, in order to block below the waist don't you have to be within a certain number of yards of the spot of the ball and while the ball is still there? Neither of those conditions were true.
Wow did anyone else just catch the heated debate they had on this play on ESPN First Take (formerly known as Cold Pizza). I was expecting all of them to tear Johnson a new one. Instead all but one of them said what Green did was bush league and they understood why Johnson reacted the way he did. What was even more surprising is that Woody actually defended Johnson as well.
You see a lot of QB's chopping a player below the knees when they aren't looking? That's is dirty....plain and simple. Some of you may not have played any football, but that's ALWAYS considered dirty. The only difference is....the player throwing the dirty block was hurt and the VICTIM ( yes I said victim) was ok and preceded to voice his displeasure after the play. *Do you like how I spent that?* Yes, Travis should have showed more control after the play, but who am I to judge? I wasn't on the field at the time...I'm not the one that got chopped at the knees and could have broke my neck. It's easy to say what someone SHOULD have done. I tell you what....Travis is a big man, but Trent is not average man himself. Trent is what? 6'4 230lbs? That's plenty big enough to lay a monster block on a player that doesn't see it coming. That's the whole point.....Travis never saw it coming! If Trent would have hit him high, he would have blown him up! Now if Travis saw Trent coming, then Trent could have went low. You do not hit a player below the knees when he doesn't see it coming nor do you hit a player in the knees when that player is being blocked by an offensive player
