GM Daryl Morey's vision becoming a reality behind sharp-shooting Rockets

I do not mind sharing the credit. Thing is nothing has been won in the postseason so it is still too early.

That said, Good work!

 

Do you make it your mission to go to every thread that is Morey related to repeat the whole "But Bazemore, but Vogel, but failure to recruit Durant!" thing or is this just a phase that you will eventually grow out of.

I mean, how many times do you have to be told that the moves did not happen therefore you cannot conclude that they would have failed.

Your thought process on Morey is clear as day, and you can deny it all you want but it follows the same formula every time:

1. Morey makes offer to player, player rejects offer.
A. If player ends up being good, criticize Morey's failure to attract FA because nobody wants to play with him as a GM.
B. If player ends up being bad, criticize Morey's failure to assess talent, disregarding other factors that may contribute to the player being bad. Claim Morey got lucky the player rejected.

2. Morey makes offer to player, player accepts offer.
A. If player ends up being good, take credit and claim you also knew this player would be good. If you cannot take credit, claim Morey got lucky because of X reason (X being an infinite amount of possibilities, like Morey getting lucky Bazemore rejected the offer, or Morey butt-dialed Gordon and went with it)
B. If player ends up being bad, criticize Morey's failure to assess talent.

At some point you need to change it up don't you think? It's becoming a bit stale and predictable since it's the same formula you used for the last 8 years.

 

Who is to say Vogel would fail?

I think we would be in the No. 5-9 area.

 

And who is to say Bazemore will fail here too? I'm too lazy to dig, but I'm willing to bet money that DD criticized Gordon signing too.

DD at his finest.

 

Given the way Harden has facilitated both Gordon and Anderson's success, I don't think it's unreasonable to wonder if Bazemore and Horford might have had career seasons if they had come here.

I think if you look at any GM's record, there's a lot of serendipity and dodged bullets mixed in with the calculated decisions. If everything had gone Morey's way during the 2014 offseason, we'd have been saddled with 2 big money players (Bosh and Parsons) who would have barely played at all due to injuries. Fortunately, that didn't happen, and Morey's practice of maintaining flexibility (with a few whiffs - see Brewer and McDaniels) has gotten the team where it is now.

 

Fair enough. I do think luck and circumstances play into a lot of success.

And again, I said Morey has done a good job this year. But, ultimately, I am not a guy who is a "FAN" of a GM, or an owner, I cheer for the team.

DD

 

Do you remember that day waaaaay back in 2014? Clutchfans.net was in abject turmoil after none of those deals went through.

Morey didnt panic and throw money at any player because he whiffed on the players he initially wanted. Morey got rooks like Tarik Black, and Papa; drafted, clutchfans once hated, Clint Capela in the 2nd round; rolled with 2nd year players DMO and TJ; took a chance on Joey Dorsey, Brewer, Terry, Josh Smith, and Pablo Prigioni.

After what we thought was an abysmal off season, Morey came out of the war room and declared he thought Rockets would have a good season.

Clutchfans.net CRUCIFIED him.

That was Beards MVP* season, 2nd in the west, 1st in the southwest, WCF participants.

Why do some of us hate Morey so much? I don't get it.

 

I get it, you're a fan of the team, not a GM or Owner. But if you don't have a competent GM and willing owner, you will be on the short end of filling a roster with talent. Elite NBA talent is scarce, and you have to compile the strongest unit. You do this with good coaching and finding talent that fits your core strength.

I see how the Debbie downers are peddeling around the notion about Vogel and Bazemore being Moreys preffered choices. Shoot, signing Anderson and Gordon weren't putting the Rockets into contender status, its not until now that the NBA pundits are thinking the team is a contender.

There is a huge risk any which way you go. If Gordon and Anderson had not panned out, these Morey self absorbed haters would be singing choruses. Ask yourselves, have you become the very trolls you once criticized.

We've had YOF, LOF, and it seems there are a few JOMF (jealous of Morey Fans) too... No other way to explain it. If Morey misses on a player he gets lambasted, if he finds a good one, it was the situation, blah blah blah....

 

I guess some people saying Morey being cheap is true. Didn't even offer the highest offer to Ryan Anderson. Must have been difficult persuading Ryan while bidding against himself.

 

What are the chances Morey finally gets Executive of the Year? He got wide spread criticism for his moves this offseason but he's proved everyone wrong. Even I was highly skeptical and I'm a Morey supporter. His only competition seems to be Myers with GS but we've yet to see if signing Durant actually made their team better. Their on pace for a worse season than last year and he gutted their bench to make it happen. Moreys moves clearly made the Rockets better but it's still up in the air with the Warriors. Their seems to be chemistry issues and their defense and bench isn't nearly as stout.

 

Of course, that is the job he signed up for, a public facing GM whose moves will be picked apart by passionate fans, I doubt it bothers him all that much.

When you take the job, you know that going in, no need for internet white knights to protect him, ultimately the work and team will decide how good of a job he and Les have done.

This year, ****ing outstanding so far.

DD

 

Another nice read about the Rockets and Rockets management. I have to say that it's getting me worried. Have I entered the Twilight Zone? Am I now in a parallel universe? We are damn near always, and no joking here, treated like grilled cow patty on an old stove by the media, so this is freakin' me out a little. Appendages crossed that our success doesn't blow up in our grinning faces.

 

His vision became a reality when GSW won a championship and achieved best record.For the Rockets ,it's mainly Le$' vision this season

 

This is one of the dumbest **** I have ever heard. Without an owner or owners there is no TEAM. Without a GM, the TEAM will suck as owners are almost always terrible GM's. The front office is just as much as the TEAM as the players, usually more so given that players come and go.

 

And perhaps Bazemore would be murdering it with our spacing but is instead suffering and looking awful in the same poor spacing we saw all last year with Dwight. If you'll recall, many of these same Rockets looked awful last year with Dwight too.

 

That doesn't fit DD's agenda. He is anti-Morey.

 

I thought DD disappeared. The ignore function here is made from gold in Greece period. Perfection.

 

Morey continues to insist that it was as much Alexander’s ideas as his own. ... "this is how he always felt like basketball should be played.”

Really? Explain the Van Gundy era.

The only difference between then and now was that Houston’s center, Hakeem Olajuwon, was the de facto point guard. “The Dream” would get the ball on the block, see the inevitable double coming or otherwise draw attention, and the ball would ultimately find the open guy on the perimeter -- Kenny Smith or Mario Elie or Robert Horry or Sam Cassell. It’s not much of a squint to see that game morphing into today’s, with Harden orchestrating instead of the Dream.

You've got to be joking. Just a small difference between the inside-out Hakeem Rockets and the arc-in Harden Rockets? That not a squint. It's gouging your eyes out.

It’s no coincidence that Houston has had some good fortune to go along with its talent. The oft-injured Anderson and Gordon have stayed healthy, and 2015 first-round pick Sam Dekker, who lost almost all of his rookie season last year to back surgery, has played in every game so far this season.

That's the definition of a coincidence. For which we're grateful. Knock wood.

 

Les has reportedly implied that making money and getting seats filled are part of his vision.

He wishes that the Rox have a competitive edge every year, having winning seasons, being in the playoffs.

Filling seats won't be that easy.

 

This is actually accurate. I did not argue for loading up on shooters, because I worried about defense. I felt 3's and layups wad higher percentage even for defenders who aren't pure shooters and i am convinced that was Morey's opinion - like Maxwell. We have been lucky Gordon has been healthy. He is not just a shooter and he plays some defense. We got him cheap, because of the injuries. If he is healthy when we need him, that is the game changer imo