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Glue Men: Parsons and Patterson

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by durvasa, Feb 9, 2012.

  1. TEXNIFICENT

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    WTF????
     
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  3. Pete the Cheat

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    I think he was whistled twice for moving screens last night. it really started bugging me last year how often he was called for it, and I have seen marginal improvement on it at best this year. It's even worse than Yao's first few years...

    I am speaking strictly from my own personal observation, but Pat mostly gets whistled when he is trucking it from the post out to the top of the 3pt arch. so maybe it is partly to due to Lowry taking off before the screen is properly set? Dalembert got caught on a play like that, as well, last night...

    it also doesn't seem to be as big of an issue when he runs the PnR with CLee... which they like to run from the elbow.
     
  4. SF3isBack!!

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    WHAT DOES HIS COLOR HAVE TO DO WITH HIM BEING CEREBRAL?????
     
  5. DaDakota

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    Our team is full of glue guys, it would be nice to have some glue guys that were also complete players.

    DD
     
  6. durvasa

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    There are very few truly complete players in the league (players that are good at everything), and they're pretty hard to get. I'd love to have a few of them as well.
     
  7. DaDakota

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    I would settle for just guys that are good on both ends, we are like a one dimensional one stop shop.

    LOL.

    DD
     
  8. durvasa

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    That's fair. Personally, I think there's only one guy I'd classify as above average on both ends currently. Here's my take (totally subjective) on each player's overall play this season. I just do a simple rating on a scale of 1 to 10 for both ends. I'd be interested to get your subjective take (and that of anyone else's) as well.

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                [B]OFF    DEF    TOT[/B]
    Lowry       7      6      13
    Martin      8      2      10
    Parsons     3      8      11
    Scola       5      4      9
    Dalembert   4      7      11
    Dragic      5      5      10
    Budinger    6      5      11
    Lee         5      6      11
    Patterson   4      6      10
    Hill        3      4      7
    
     
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  9. DaDakota

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    Code:
                [B]OFF    DEF    NET[/B]
    Lowry       7      6      13
    Martin      8      2      10
    Parsons     2      8      10
    Scola       6      4      10
    Dalembert   3      8      9
    Dragic      6      6      12
    Budinger    6      5      11
    Lee         6      6      12
    Patterson   4      6      10
    Hill        4      4      8
    That is abput where I fall on these guys.

    DD
     
  10. DaDakota

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    Code:
                [B]OFF    DEF    NET[/B]
    Lowry       7      6      13
    Martin      8      2      10
    Parsons     2      8      10
    Scola       6      4      10
    Dalembert   3      8      11
    Dragic      6      6      12
    Budinger    6      5      11
    Lee         6      6      12
    Patterson   4      6      10
    Hill        4      4      8
    That is about where I fall on these guys - my Dally Tally was off a bit.

    DD
     
  11. acsorelle4

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    I came to the opposite conclusion watching last night's game. I was saying to my wife how refreshing it was to watch two-way players who actually care about performing on both sides of the ball, even if they aren't glamorous superstars. Fun game.
     
  12. DaDakota

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    I like the caring part, I really do, but we are short of two way players.

    DD
     
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    Code:
                [B]OFF    DEF    NET[/B]
    Lowry       8      6      14
    Martin      8      3      11
    Parsons     2      8      10
    Scola       6      3      9
    Dalembert   3      7      10
    Dragic      6      5      11
    Budinger    6      4      10
    Lee         6      5      11
    Patterson   5      7      12
    Hill        4      4      8
    I had to bump up Patrick, and make some minor adjustments.

    Patrick's offense is slowly coming along, and he has been significantly better than Jordan Hill.

    Lowry gets an 8 on offense, because he is the offense. Martin and Scola completely rely on him...
     
  14. durvasa

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    Thanks. Dalembert was a little tough for me to rate. He's had the most extreme ups and downs on the team.
     
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    I've been asking for two way players for a long time but I don't think that's our biggest problem.

    We need players that can be exceptional on at least one side of the ball. People credit Lowry and Martin for being that but they really aren't. Lowry is a great playmaker but many nights he lacks the personal scoring ability to close games for us. Martin is the exact opposite, offensively. He can't make any plays, for himself or others. However, he's one of the best scorers in the nba IF he is set up. Sure, he's efficient but when he doesn't get HIS shot he'll just pass it off to someone else and make them take the tough shots.

    That's what sets the great teams in this league apart from the rockets. Great teams have guys that can make plays AND score, reliably.
     
  16. DaDakota

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    True, we don't have a single player that is good at creating a good shot for himself....

    DD
     
  17. Joe Joe

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    Lowered a few. I have a hard time with Patterson as he has been hampered by injury. I think he could become the second best player on this team if he can get his rebounding up.
     
  18. thekad

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    As an advanced stat guy, I'm surprised you'd rank some of those guys above Dalmebert on offense, durvasa. Although, he has been pretty bad lately.
     
  19. rocketblaze

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    I see Patrick Patterson and Chandler Parsons as our primary guys off the bench backing up Donatas Motiejunas and Marcus Morris in the long run.
     
  20. durvasa

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    Nice defensive work by Parsons yesterday at the end of the game.

    For the season, Parsons has been ISO'd against 43 times where his opponent didn't pass it off. His man has scored only 11 times. Overall, he's given up a points-per-play of only 0.51, which is 9th amongst all NBA players who've defended ISOs more than 25 times.
     

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