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Giving The Insurrectionist The Significant Finger

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    United States Constitution, Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3:
    No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

    Do you see the words convicted or charged? Or, the words "engaged in"?

    Colorado was the first state to enforce the 14th Amendment. At least 16 other states are looking at it.
     
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    Lie, Lie, Fear, Fear......rinse and repeat 24/7
     
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    I find this shocking because I totally expected her to keep it 100 honest
     
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    From what I read the judges were appointed to these spots. They didn't run against anyone.
     
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    Maine next?

    Secretary of state delays decision on Trump ballot access after Colorado ruling
    Challengers seeking to keep former President Donald Trump off Maine's presidential primary ballot say at a Colorado court ruling this week helps their case
    https://www.pressherald.com/2023/12...llot-urge-state-to-look-at-colorado-decision/
     
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    lolwuut
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/if-tru...-colorado-supreme-court-insurrection-abf790e6
    If Trump Is Disqualified, He Can Still Run
    Colorado’s Supreme Court overlooks the 20th Amendment.

    ...In November 2024, voters will choose presidential electors. When voting, citizens will see the names of presidential candidates when, in fact, they are voting for the electors who will later vote for president.

    One problem for the Colorado court’s ruling is that the 14th Amendment never declares that voters can’t select presidential electors who are pledged to vote for nonqualified candidates. The 14th Amendment disqualifies certain people from holding federal and state office and doesn’t explicitly regulate ballot access. Nor does it expressly authorize state officials to judge the qualifications of candidates or electors.

    The more decisive flaw is that the ruling ignores a key provision of the 20th Amendment, which provides: “If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified” (emphasis added).


    The italicized text implies that electors can lawfully vote for a candidate even if he isn’t qualified to serve as president—and he can take office if he qualifies later. But how could that happen? A simple example is if the president-elect will turn 35 after Inauguration Day. (Similarly, Joe Biden was 29 when he was elected to the Senate in 1972 but turned 30 before the start of his term.)


    Under the 14th Amendment, a disqualification based on insurrection can also go away: “Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.” It often did so in the postbellum period. In July 1868, three weeks after the 14th Amendment’s ratification, South Carolina’s Legislature elected Franklin J. Moses Sr. as the state’s chief justice. He took office after Congress removed his disqualification in December.

    If the U.S. Supreme Court holds that Mr. Trump engaged in insurrection, it’s hard to imagine Congress voting by two-thirds to remove his disqualification. If he is the Republican nominee, his choice of vice president may be even more important than Mr. Biden’s.
    They wink wink that the elected GOP Veep could conceivably blanket pardon the president of Insurrection charges, then "one man crimewave" would be magically eligible to be sworn in.

    Looks like it's footrest Pillow Guy or Ivanka for Donny's running mate!
     
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    Surprisingly, the blonde Nazi from Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade is partially correct. All 7 of them were appointed by Democratic governors, initially. After a 2-year period, they're on the ballot with a yes or no question to retain them or not...but not actually running against an opponent. 6 of the 7 have been retained. The 7th will be on the ballot next year. The 4 justices that voted to disqualify trumpybear were all retained with over 68% of the vote.
     
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    LOL... because the 14th Amendment clearly calls out southern border policy.

     
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    "Slam dunk a judge's baby into the trashcan."

    GOP is going full Hamas
     
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    Oh my, beheading.

    Are they posting from caves?
     
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    Love Becky Sue...

     
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    maga shyster at least isn't calling it a tour go awry or patriots expressing their 1st amendment rights...

     
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    This has been addressed before but this clause isn’t subject to conviction of a crimeZ the civil war figures who were denied office weren’t tried.

    Also as noted not being qualified to serve office isn’t a criminal penalty
     
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    Same lack of knowledge of what the 14th Amendment says...

     
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    Republicans were the ones who filed the case. They didn't want him running in the primary.
     
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    I don't like Trump, but you leftists defending this is ridiculous.
     
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    trump's pro bono lawyer, on the verge of an epstein revelation, opines on what an insurrection is on... newsmax (LOL!)...

     

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