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Giving thanks for Trig

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Nov 27, 2009.

  1. LScolaDominates

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    Again, it is quite obvious that you are trying to deflect criticism of your own behavior onto phantom targets. I am not inclined to take that bait.

    Have a nice life.
     
  2. FranchiseBlade

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    I'm not the one playing stupid. Unfortunately you fail to read into Sam's posts anything but the most literal and base meanings. I have 3rd graders that can infer more from the reading than apparently you have.

    If you can't understand that Sam's comments were not in any way derivative of care givers to Special Needs children, or Special needs children themselves, then that isn't really my problem, and it will be difficult for any real communication to take place.

    What the population who are care givers would probably find objectionable in this thread and others is basso's repeated false claims saying people are disparaging special needs children or their care givers. It has been shown in other threads that he is guilty of that, and he's never been able to refute the evidence laid before him, but still continues to spew the same ignorance.

    The satire and parody of his over dramatic, plight, and self-victimization would be certainly be understood by most people.

    Anytime you are in LA I will bring the evidence of basso's false accusations and present Sam's post as a nice piece of satire to counter them. I don't think anyone would be interested in a basketball bbs squabble, but if you really want to, I'll do it.

    In this post and others you have talked a lot about things I or others "spew on this board." How would you know so much about it since you've been here such a short time? Or are you a ghost account for someone else?

    The only person being attacked in Sam's post are basso for his making false claims, idiots who think people don't like Sarah because she chose to have Trig, or hate Trig.

    I get it. You fail to understand this and were unable to grasp the satire or targets of the post. That's fine. It says all that needs to be said about this topic.
     
  3. Granville

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    Run away coward...

    It's plain to see you hate Basso. He probably wore you out in an argument at one point or another. You did nothing but deflect my comments directed toward the band of jackasses on to Basso.
     
  4. Granville

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    You have no business teaching anyone if you look up to idiots who run around using phrases like ****-bait. You no damn well you'd be fired on the spot for using that phrase. Nice job of side stepping that.

    Man up and tell the truth, you know that crap is wrong.

    Like I said, tell me who to e-mail and I will ask one question of the school administrator. 100 bucks says they will want to know what a-hole teacher in their district would approve of that phrase let alone recommend it under any circumstance.
     
  5. mc mark

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    I have met Mr FranchiseBlade, and you sir are no Mr FranchiseBlade.
     
  6. surrender

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    This thread is r****ded
     
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  7. LScolaDominates

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    I hope you come to realize that your childish outbursts say more about your character than those of the ones you insult. You seem to have a semblance of intelligence, and somewhere in this thread you may have had something constructive to say; but you threw that away when you decided to lash out against every superficial slight you perceived as a threat to your fragile self image.
     
  8. FranchiseBlade

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    You wouldn't frame the question right. Here's the thing. Let's look at A Modest Proposal. If you asked a superintendent if an employee should ever propose using poor people for actual food to help with poverty, they would laugh at you say it was ridiculous and of course you shouldn't under any circumstance.

    Of course the book never seriously suggested that even though it went on for page after page talking about doing just that in order to deal with the poverty situation.

    But given basso's history of self righteousness on this issue which he hides behind to make false allegations against people on this board, and his imaginary special needs children hating boogey men in any post that in any way criticizes Palin, Sam's post was very appropriate, and no I wouldn't be fired for saying that.

    It was appropriate because basso never wanted a serious discussion on the topic, and Sam never gave a serious reply. Instead he fit right in. Like I said you don't get it, and that's something you can deal with on your own.
     
  9. Granville

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    Last time, I checked the lashing out stuff was going on before I got here. The problem is you want the people that you don't like to change not the herd who gang up on posters who they disagree. You've got some nerve to call me out. Man up and police your own.
     
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    /end thread
     
  11. Batman Jones

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    Of course Granville will just post back that he was appalled by Swift's Proposal.
     
  12. Granville

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    Do you think Basso is the only one who reads this forum that has or knows a mentally handicapped person? It's a ****ty thing to say on a public forum.

    There is no situation at your school that they would excuse you from saying that. Like I said, tell me who to e-mail and I will settle this.
     
  13. FranchiseBlade

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    Like I said, you have no idea what's going on, because you don't understand satire.

    I will again steer you toward A Modest Proposal. Saying that society should actually eat the poor to deal with poverty is a ****ty thing to say. Of course nobody seriously proposed that even though page after page of the book discusses the benefits of doing just that.

    And many more people could read that book than read this thread. Even though eating the impoverished is a horrible thing to do, yet somehow enough people got the satire. Those that didn't just look silly.

    You don't get it.
     
  14. Granville

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    No I am appalled at you sticking your tongue out and using Trig Palin to get back at Basso because he made your wee wee hurt. If you have a handicapped family member and you do stuff like that you should get a swift one in the nads. Stuff like this is why your buds don't have a lick of credibility for not calling you out.
     
  15. Granville

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    No, you can't do the decent thing and apologize for it and move on. You're too damn worried about what your friends think.

    Steer toward the word that was said. You can not get away with that at any school. Give me the e-mail address coward, I have no idea who you are.
     
  16. FranchiseBlade

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    Your inability to understand satire has you arguing against something that isn't even really there.

    It's not worth the argument.
     
  17. FranchiseBlade

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    You have no idea who I am, or what was said, or the concept of satire.
     
  18. Granville

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    You did see that Jeff was wondering in this very thread wtf was wrong with people tossing out those words, right?
     
  19. mc mark

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    How do you know who Jeff is?

    Damn, you are really becoming boring. Or dare I say it?

    a one Trig pony
     
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  20. Granville

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    Thanks for taking time to consider this forgotten segment of America.

    Let's use Autism as an example..


    Tell me exactly what health care reform measures are on the table now to help Autistic patients.

    The government has some programs in place now. The problem is most of them have 7-10 year waiting lists and the best possible results come with early intervention. When most people find out their kid has Autism, the kid is usually around 3 which means the kid won't get government help until he or she is between 10-13. That's the lucky ones who have friends or advisors that tell them where to go and what exactly to ask for. They will not tell you at Harris County MHMR unless you ask specifically for the program.

    I can also tell you that insurance pays for very little of the therapy that these kids need. The cost to put your child in to ABA therapy is around 35-50 dollars per hour at a private school where you can get one on one interaction. You got to a public school, you get an aide who has 3 or 4 other kids to watch and a teacher who gets a classroom full with a couple of aides who usually leave because they get overwhelmed.

    I know of an instance where Memorial Herman refused to take an autistic boy because he was having tantrums because he had a ear infection, viral infection, fever and diarhea. Mermorial Herman told the parents to take him to a mental hospital because of his tantrums. The parents called mental hospitals from the waiting room and were told that mental hospitals won't take mental patients when are sick. They were told by the doctor to consider putting him in a home. They basically refused to leave and the child had to be admitted.

    Less fortunate means anyone who can't pay everything on their own. The poor do get help from a few medicade based programs. Those with insurance right now get basically nothing.

    Please tell me that the health care reform is going to add comprehensive coverage for those with autism or other mental health related conditions.


    With all the hope and change bravado that was in the air last year, folks with skin in the game (like Palin herself) in the special needs community hope that Palin can change the quality of life for special needs people and their caregivers.

    I was at a seminar in October and Gerry Cavanaugh was speaking there. He was a long time economic advisor for Ted Kennedy. When he was speaking he talked about politicians and said 2 main goals of both parties were getting elected and getting re-elected. He said some had passion projects and Kennedy's was health care reform. Gerry said that Obama just wants to get anything in front of him so that it will help him get re-elected. He didn't say that to blast him, he said it to say a republican would be doing something similar too. He said most of these politicians have no idea what's in the proposed legislation and most of the the work is being done by underpaid staffers whose average age is 28. The goal is to push anything through now knowing full well there are going to be some huge flaws that no one has thought of that will negatively effect the health care industry and that they would have to be fixed later.

    After Gerry left the stage, he came and sat down beside me at my table to listen to the next speaker and eat lunch afterward. We started talking more about what he said earlier. He was very flattering of Ted Kennedy and said he treated his staff well and was very conscientious.

    The conversation got around to Sarah Palin. Gerry agreed that he felt that she was sincere and that she's be a huge asset to the special needs community if she was in Washington. He said she had the ability to be a driving force in this area.

    I told Gerry about what happened at Memorial Herman. The man said he had no idea that there was the huge loophole that left special needs kids in this predicament. It's easy to see why when these folks get pushed to side only to become the punchline to some joke or weapon to use against your foe like what happens here.

    Gerry Cavanaugh sincerely thanked me that day for opening up his eyes to the huge loophole for insurance coverage for mental health care. There's not much he has to say on it these days but it was nice hear his prospective on both sides of the political equation.

    In the political wrestling match that goes on in Washington both sides want to be the face and make the other guy the heel. That makes a for a pretty uninteresting pay for view....

    In closing, when you piss on Palin and mention her son while doing it you are pissing on a lot of other people who want things to change for their vulernable loved ones. Legislation needs to be passed that significantly helps the special needs community now. If healthcare reform does that and does not break this country, sign me up.
     

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