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Give YAO the $%*@! ball

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Axeman, Feb 10, 2004.

  1. buddry

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    I suggest you guys contact Rockets management and apply for an assistant coaching job. Everybody seems to know what is best except for the current rocket coaches.
     
  2. rrj_gamz

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    I agree, but that will never happen with Steve here...I would like to think Yao and Steve can co-exist, but you can see it night after night...Steve likes to shoot and be the center of attention, but if Yao gets the plays and the ball the majority of the time, then he is no longer the "Franchise"...

    As of today, I would rather take my chances with Yao vs. Steve, but JVG has not gotten through to him and I don't think he ever will...
     
  3. riskmetrics

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    Just say it again, HELP YAO, HELP YOU! To Rockets, to JVG, to Steve, to everybody in this team.


    Yao takes shots <=12, the Rockets are 16-18.
    Yao takes shots >=13, the Rockets are 13-4.
     
  4. Donatello

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    Completely agree!

    Not able to take 20 shots a game or doesn't have the stamina to do so has become such a cliche for guys who defend the supposed good shooting of SF. Yao is not taking 20+ shots per game simply because many Rox players are still hesitant to hand him the ball.
     
  5. canoner2002

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    the rest of the team needs to do their work to help Yao have good games. On the nights when Yao just cannot find the basket even his teammats get the ball to him where he wanted, we lost the game. It is not like you have much choices when you did your best but your #1 man still sucked. Every team suffers this kind of losses.

    It is a game of percentage. whether you make playoff depends on how many games you win. We will get a higher percentage if we use Yao more and better.
     
  6. sjackson0

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    I love the way Steve and Cat......oohhh sorry, wrong forum.
     
  7. riskmetrics

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    In other words, in games where Yao takes shots >=13, the Rockets' PCT is 0.765... if Yao could manage avg 15 shots a game, Rockets would be No.1 in the NBA league.

    However, to do that, YAO needs his coach and teammates' cooperation and help (e.g. good 3PT shooting, passing...).
     
  8. u851662

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    I was at the game last night, and one thing I did notice, when Yao did get the ball he didnt make a move with it until7 seconds after he obtained it. Nestorivic (spelling) was manhandling Yao the whole night from what I could see courtside. Yao is still playine timid in my opinion and the majority of people sitting around me said the same thing. However, there were times that Yao was missed closed to the basket. I cant pin the whole blame on the team for Yao not getting the ball. It seemed to me the crowd was begging/urging Yao to do something with the ball, and those were the only times he realized, he needed to make his move... Yao shares some of the blame for this guys. I've been to 6 games this season all courtside. This has been the case 5 out of 6 of these games. When Yao gets it in his mind that he can DOMINATE he will. When he gets it in his mind, it wont be a question of him getting the ball, he will be demanding it from all his teammates until then we will be the same fragile Rockets.... Could you guys tell how hard Yao got hit in the eye with the ball, when Cato had no where to go with it and tried to pass it to Yao. That was some funny stuff.:D
     
  9. KaiSeR SoZe

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    IMO Yao should touch the ball every possession, he doesn't have to shoot it but he should at least touch it! He has great court vision and can get good oppurtunities for his teammates
     
  10. sjackson0

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    I agree with you, but rest assure that it has been more than the 5 games you've seen courtside. Yao is coming along nicely and in a few years, he will be unstoppable. BUT NOW..... IN THIS DAY AND AGE, Yao plays timid and soft some nights and other nights he's aggressive and accurate. Just a roll of the dice! He is still not strong enough to establish and keep his position for more than 3 sec. Who's fault is that? Many people here will still say it's Steve, Cat, Rudy, Calvin, Clutch, Lisa, Clyde, Bobby Knight, Tom, Dick and Harry's fault that Yao is not living up to the hype. Everyone's fault but Yao and I'm tired of hearing, "But when he has positions, they still don't get it to him!!!" Who would pass it to a 7'6 center 17 feet away from the paint with his back towards the basket; 4 sec left on the clock all so he can do a fadeaway hook shot. Come on!!! Some of you are naive..... Why would a anyone do that when Steve can shoot an airball? lol
     
  11. oliver_67

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    Nesterovic manhandled Yao last night? Gee, were we watching the same game?

    Yao torched Nes so bad that the Spurs put Duncan on him, and Yao still made his shots. 11-16 (from the field) and you still say that Yao was bullied by his opponents and he was timid? Give me a break.

    Yao took what the defense gave him and played within the flow of the offense. Coupled with only 1 TO, I thought that he played an outstanding game last night. Also since his outside shooting was on, I definitely believe that we should use him more last night. Ideally when he was the only one with a hot hand from the field, I'd like to see that he took 25 shots last night.
     
  12. u851662

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    B.S. Nesterovic was giving Yao fits with his agressive play under the goal. I am talking defensively, the guy was pushing Yao out the blocks all night long. It is different when your at the game and you can watch the process of Yao getting position rather than watching the game on T.V. where as the camera for the most part is focused only on half the court. Dude I was there and watched it thoroughly. I am not baised to anyone on this team. I am just telling it like I saw it as well as alot of other fans sitting around me saw it from courtside. Yao still got his from put backs and a few nice hooks or whatever. But Yao was visually frustrated at time from Nesterovic's aggressiveness....
     
  13. montevideo

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    I agree - well coached teams that are properly prepared for Rox all do the same to Yao - put bodies on him to make him work while he doesn't have the ball.

    And you can't see it all on the Screen.

    I also agree with oliver_67 - he was effective last night - especially in the 4th quarter on both ends - it's just that he did have to work hard.

    Everyone knows he fatigues quickly, even the analysts last night were on to that, so the objective is to get him fatigued as quickly as possible by harrassing him for position every time down the court.

    Another factor in his rapid fatigue - is how much Yao moves on defense when he's in the game - this is a requirement of JVG's I suppose. Watch Duncan and Shaq - they don't move nearly as much on defense.
     
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    It's funny, cuz you're the only one seeing Yao scoring on putbacks last night... considering he didn't get any offensive boards and all. Maybe it's the court side seats that contributed my blurred vision on stats. If there was one game that Yao completely sealed off his man on position, it was last night. I remember one play, Yao completely pushed Rasho out without receiving a pass from Steve, then Rasho pulled on Yao so much with both hands that you could visibly see Yao's left foot off the ground (without a foul call of course). So I don't know which game you were watching.
     
  15. heech

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    All I gotta say is, cut down on the beers when you're sitting courtside.

    As another poster already said: zero put-backs. And it wasn't "a couple nice hooks or whatever", it was eleven field-goals out of 16 shots. If that's a night of the defense frustrating Yao... holy crap, what would qualify as a good night for Yao?
     
  16. TECH

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    Yao had visions of 30pts, and was frustrated that he didn't get more shot attempts.
    I watched the game, and in this game particularly, I was hoping for more Yao involvement, as he seemed to be very effective on offense. Not a bad game though.
     
  17. kwc

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    Why the heck do some think yao cannot handle 15+ shots a game? How many times has he been given the opportunity? All I remember is that he score career highs when that happened ...
     
  18. canoner2002

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    You are clueless. Yao waited because he wanted his passer to go to the other side of the court and clear the room around him. It was a great thing to do because last night he had very good % by going 1-on-1.
    Yao got manhandeled? I saw him tossing Nestrovic around. He fought hard and he got the position when he want. But our guards start turning away even before he could seal off his defender. If Yao had a bit meanstreak of KG, he would have been waiving his fists to SF. I think the day he yells at SF this team will be reborn.
     
  19. tituspan

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    Amen!! :cool:
     
  20. lsqdavid

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    It's not always SF's fault. Steve would like to pass the ball to Yao most of the time as long as Yao get a good position. Sometimes he just don't know how to pass the damn ball to him when there is one or two 6'5-7'0 giant in front of him, and yao doesn't know how to finght his way out, and other players on the court don't know how to move to smash the defense.
    but I have to admit that for countless times when it comes to crutial moments SF want to be the hero, but every time it turns out he is not! and he himself still does'n realize it.
    If one day steve could realize it, this team will be one of the top team in the league, and both Steve and Yao, will become the top players. I hope we needn't wait long !
    Amen!:eek:
     

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