Give the credit where it is due--about Yao and Game 1

it is a bit sad but understandable.

like u said, ppl needs hero. so does media and news.

no one will read the news if they saw the title "YAO scored 30 points in a game" millions of times. but ppl definitly will be interested in things like "TMac scored 13 points in 35 secs".

I believe 95% of us, if not 100%, give credit to both YAO and Tmac.

without any of them, we could not win this game 1.

STOP COMPARING the IMPORTANCE of OUR DUO if u r a REAL ROX FUN.

 

It's a damn shame that even in a win, the "fans" that are really just fans of one player must cause chaos by over-valuing one player, while under-valuing the rest of the team. Hey rfila and other Yao enthusiasts, stop being so sensitive about what other people on an internet forum say. I know you all have basketball knowledge, at least enough to know how much Yao means to the team. So, when some poster tries to bash Yao, why do you let that bother you? You know they're dead wrong and ignorant. Not only should you not bother wasting time of your day to respond to them, don't throw Yao's teammates under the bus in the process. Two wrongs don't make a right... remember that.

 

There's absolutely no doubt that for us to win a championship this year, EVERYBODY has to play well... not just T-Mac, not just Yao, not just T-Mac and Yao... EVERYBODY! However... if anyone is going to bother evaluating the contribution of each player for fun, stop being WRONG and watch the damn games please. It seems the main fight here is between Yao and T-Mac. This is odd to me, because Yao shouldn't even be considered the 2nd biggest contribution to us winning Game 1. In order of importance, it's #1 T-Mac, #2 JVG's defense, #3 Yao, #4 Rafer, #5 everyone else

Tracy McGrady: his impact to the team (especially on offense) is exponentially higher than any other player on the team. It's not even close. He is the heart and soul of the team... the MVP... the one and only play maker. The offense revolves around him. He's also the best perimeter defender. The team will go only as far as T-Mac will take us. He makes the role players better by involving them... and by role players I mean EVERYBODY NOT NAMED TRACY MCGRADY. How do you think Head, Battier, and Rafer get open looks? When he's on his game, we're pretty much unstoppable as long as our great role players are also making open looks. If anyone thinks that Yao can carry a team without Tracy, look what Golden State did to him. Enough said. You can't win with a bunch of role players, you need a superstar. Tracy is our superstar on offense. There is a reason why T-Mac said if we lost, it's on him. IT REALLY IS ON HIM.

Yao Ming: Yao is a truly unique player. He's a superstar player, yet in our offense, he is a role player. Being called a "role player" is not an insult btw. His role is to get in point blank range, and then shoot. His problem in Game 1 is that he was not getting close enough to the basket, especially in the 2nd half. If his jumper's on, that's fine and dandy, but he can greatly increase his efficiency by taking shots closer to the basket. His role is to score, period. If he is not being double teamed, which is currently the case, he should shoot the ball EVERY TIME. His job is not to involve the teammates. It's not because he's not capable of doing that, IT'S NOT HIS ROLE... get it? So stop criticizing Yao for doing something he's not assigned to do in the offense! However, at the same time he doesn't have to score IN VOLUME for us to play well (more on that below). Fortunately though, he is being much more aggressive lately, so the number of point blank shots and therefore, the number of FT's are increasing. If he keeps taking point blank shots, he should take more. If he's fatigued and settling for jumpers, I want him taking less shots. I'd much rather him try to box out and get offensive rebounds. He was settling for jumpers in the 2nd half. That needs to stop.

Why is it that when everyone talks about Yao, it's usually about his offense? ON DEFENSE is where Yao is the true superstar. He is the best post defender in the entire league. He completely took Carlos Boozer out of his game. How many players in the league can do that? All Yao has to do is be able to move laterally but keep his hands up most importantly. He is literally the Great Wall. Now that he's more disciplined and not fouling, he is an absolute pest for teams that want to go inside. Yao's defense and rebounding is so much more important to our team than anything he can do offensively, it's not even funny. He and Mutombo are what makes our "pack the paint" defense work. For the people that are saying Yao kept us in the game in the 1st half when T-Mac was off, you're right... but for the wrong reasons. It was Yao's defense, T-Mac and Battier's defense along with the overall team defense that kept us in the game. That defense you saw had JVG's name written all over it, and that is why JVG was the 2nd most important contributor to the W. Yao has A LOT to do with #2 in the list above though, but not all.

 

Actually T-Mac is the hero. This is not about the media or news. If Yao goes off for 30, he will be recognized for it. I don't know what news you have been watching. You should also know that T-Mac has a lot to do with Yao getting that 30. If you don't know why, then re-watch Game 1, or just watch Game 2 tomorrow. Don't look at the box scores, WATCH THE GAME.

 

wow just saw R2K's highlights and yao ming looked like a lil kid on the sideline. man such passion from yao. what a sight to see .

head, hayes, tmac showed more passion than they usually do too.

 

It's the playoffs. offcourse the big lion( yao ) will show more emotion. the big guy is gonna take he's game to another level. i believe he will Avge humongus numbers. there is noone who can even carry he's jock straps anymore. shaq is nothing.

 

"he is a role player"
LOL
"JVG coaching the Rockets >>>>> YOU coaching the Rockets"

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"JVG rating the Rockets >>>>> YOU rating the Rockets"

 

Don't pay attention to the yao haters cause they're tmac only fans. Quite of few of them on this board unfortunately.

 

Good critique. See what kind of trash you have post here.
Shame on you!

 

Ok I see that...and like I said I really didn't read or care what you said... seems a little fishy to cut someone's words out of context...which is easy to do on a bbs...so yeah...both our guys are great...and actually the pointless debate led to some acknowledgments on both sides...I don't think anyone here mistakes you for a "Yao" hater anymore...you've made that quite clear....go Rockets....and lets hope that the only reason debates like this come up is because both our stars do so well in leading us to a championship we perfectionist have to nitpick at something....I welcome pointless debates if it means that they come with Rocket victories...
-V

 

Read my entire post instead of taking things out of context. Yao is a role player on offense. On defense, he is the superstar. He is the anchor of our pack the paint defense. His defense is much more important than his offense. It is the opposite for T-Mac. Offense seems to get most of the attention on this forum and pretty much in the NBA world, and that is why Yao's contribution will be less noted than T-Mac's. It's a shame I guess, but Yao isn't an attention-w****. Yao doesn't care about this, so why should anyone else?

 

Actually your posts have been trash. Absolutely zero insight. Zero contribution to a discussion.

 

Man i love yao. i regulary refer to him as the big lion. i've got banned on someother sites for losing the plot when fans from other teams started calling yao soft. which is nonsense. tell me aother guy who could plasyer with an ingrown toe nail for 3 straight years and put up 19 and 9. most grown men would'nt even be able to walk with that kind of injury. but offcourse is not like most grown men, he is the big lion.

 

The whole comparison between the duo is obnoxious, including yours as well .

 

Yes, don't let another fan's opinion make you sad, just appreciate the win. I don't think anyone ignores Tmac's not-so-sick in the 1st half. Yao's contribution is invaluable, and it proved to be the difference.

 

Again, I guess you didn't read my post either. I described how T-Mac and Yao contribute to the team. What's so obnoxious about that? If you don't like the thread content, just ignore it. I can post here if I want to.

 

rfila, it is the American culture. They like drama and entertainment. Media writes articles in a way to attract people's eye balls, especially for those who didn't watch the game.

I agree with you that Yao contributed a lot. I think he is the key, the consistent force, among the Rocket players to keep Rockets in the game and eventually won the game.

 

Its disturbing when we have to disect our team into different players. This is ONE team. We would not have won if rafer hadnt hit his 3 threes and if luther hadnt made his shots and if shane hadnt hit his threes. But they werent mentioned on any headlines.

Get over it, Robert Horry showed up as a hero so many time but how important was he really during the entire course of the game, if it wasnt for his weak games perhaps his team would not have needed that game winner.

This is Yao and Tmac's team, if Yao has a good game and tmac doesnt we cannot win in the playoffs, if Tmac has a good game and Yao doesnt we still dont win. We need them both period. If it wasnt for Yao we would have gone blown out of our own arena and tmac effort in the second half would have been irrelevant.

 

Who cares who gets the credit? We won. Be happy!! This YOF crap is ridiculous.