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Give the credit where it is due--about Yao and Game 1

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rfila, Apr 22, 2007.

  1. nait

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    If you are not drunk, then you are just stupid. TMac might be a better, all around player and a leader. But this team is build around Yao. Anybody with a clear mind knows it, even TMac himself. Yao is the only reason he left Orlando and joined Rockets. Using Jonathan's words for conclusion: "Yao is the only player untouchable in this team, period."
     
  2. Kyakko

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    good point. TMac maybe the better player and dictates the game, but the rockets are a half court inside-out game, planned after yao ming. TMac's the floor general with a strategy revolved around Yao.
     
  3. DaDakota

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    This board is for ROF !!!

    DD
     
  4. yaominn

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    I suggest we lock this thread and reopen it after one of the two wins final mvp.
     
  5. zhao1109

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    When YAO down, we still have DEKE and other big. when TMAC, who can replace him? Tell me whose team if the core was out 32 games and still have 60% winning?

    TMAC came for YAO, that was ture, but doesnt necessarily mean This is YAO'S team. And watch your wording..
     
  6. langal

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    I had a burrito for lunch.
     
  7. BONIERO1576

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    Its pretty faulty logic to say that T-mac catching fire won the game, Yao took all the abuse in the middle, got to the freethrow line, and punished them for not double teaming. He played consistently downplaying his contributions is mornonic, he scored 19 in the first T-mac scored 1. Yao had more to do with this win than T-mac's 3rd quarter, but it was the dirty work so its not gonna get him an interview with Stephen A.
     
  8. DonkeyMagic

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    its not about yao

    its not about tmac

    its all jvg
    :)
     
  9. qfrank

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    Some peple here do not get why Kobe is fighting for play off while Oneal got another ring already.

    Obviously Kobe did not get it too. He claimed that was his team, and tried to steal credit from Oneal.
     
  10. doublehh03

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    no it's all about les alexander. we have a chance to win it this yr, but our chances can be greatly enhanced if he's willing to spend and pay the luxury tax to get a legit PG so rafer can be a backup PG, a younger shooting PF, or a legit 3rd scorer.

    if he does, we can be even greater.

    so houston rockets are about the owner. :D
     
  11. doublehh03

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    the good thing about tmac is he can play w/ yao on the floor or w/o him. tmac doesn't need anyone to make him better. so that's why u saw tmac dominating even when yao went out.

    our offense has to be inside-out for the role players. we don't have guys to play the suns style and thus are not very disciplined. only tmac can play that style and we tried while yao was out. but that cna't last a season b/c deke, rafer, howard can't do that a whole season.

    so we need to play more half-court b/c that allows yao to get shots, but also tmac to create shots for others.

    tmac can play with anyone, any style, anywhere, anytime. we have to play inside-out so we can get yao and others shots. tmac knows that.
     
  12. Kyakko

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    i'm going to have to respectfully disagree. yes, he can get yao shots, but van gundy's strategy is gear that way. as good as tmac is, we can't really plan around him because he's too streaky. considering that, van gundy's defensive style and yao's game, it's silly to play a outside-inside game.

    we don't play a half court game because of our role players. they are mostly irreverent as far as strategy planning goes. however, i think rafer, hayes, vspan and our other role players would do better at a running game, but we'd be a worse team cuz that would factor out yao.

    i think this scheme makes both superstars equally as important. together, they're about 80 percent of the team. as for tmac playing without yao... that's just asking for a first round exit, and vice versa
     
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    the reason he's streaky b/c the offense doesn't go through him and look for him to score on every play. and many players are streaky. look at kobe in game 1.

    the reason i say tmac can play any style is that when yao was out, he proves he can handle the load. when yao returns, he can switch up and play half scorer/facilitator.

    that's why he fits any system.
     
  14. Kyakko

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    i agree with you on that part and he does fit in the system. however, the system is an inside out-game planned around yao with tmac in control. both are equally important.

    kobe is 80 percent of his team so phil has no choice.
     
  15. doublehh03

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    i know. buti 'm saying tmac can do that, but if he has to play where a system is aorund him, or play in the suns system, he can do all that. he's one of the very few who can thrive in any system.
     
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    and i don't disagree, but the team would be worse off. if we had a system around him, it'd be orlando all over again cuz you negate yao's game. that might work during regular season with mostly eastern teams, but it's a first round exit in the playoffs especially against western teams. the argument here is who's more important and i say they're both equal within the given roles i've previously stated.
     
  18. doublehh03

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    tmac didn't have another all-star w/ him in orlando. again we were 20-12 w/ the offense around tmac ONLY and playing defense. now if u add another all-star (say like a joe johnson, a KG...) where the offense revolves around tmac => a damn great team.

    i mean if jordan played w/ shaq, u have to go inside-out b/c shaq gets the closest shots => always a better shot. but since jordan played w/ pippen, he can still do it.

    and tmac shot 47% w/o yao. i think sometimes when he doesn't have to score as much, he loses focus offensively. but every player is streaky.
     
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    As long as nobody takes advantage of that part, I appreciate virtue of humbleness and say no to YOF. But these two days I saw a lot of crap such as Yao is only a role player...... crazy
     

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