Give the credit where it is due--about Yao and Game 1

This topic reminds of an old Chinese joke. A hungry guy was only satiated after he finished 9 pies. He was suddenly regretful and said to himself:" I should directly ate the 9th one had I known it was the one!"

In a typical Chinese view, a win is added up to by all members contribution. Please just don't tell me it is the final score that had won the game. Nor it is only T-Mac's comeback that won the game.

 

I wish the YOFs would really quit getting their panties all up in a bunch over an inconsequential matter.

"Waaah, people are giving T-Mac too much love, yao's not getting enough love." Go cry me a river.

I don't care whether Yao gets 60 points or 2 points, as long as we're winning. If it turns out that everyone else sucks, Juwan freaking Howard goes off for 40 and 20 and we win, hooray.

 

Taking the praise of tmac's contribution as a slight to Yao is being a bit (if not ridiculoulsy) sensitive.

While I do agree Yao contributed as much, if not more, in terms of consistency to the win, I think that the combination of Tmac's fiery third quarter and the fact that his scoring sufferend in the first half but reversed to greatness in the second is the reason it was regarded as crucial and impressive. As someone else posted, before he was playing well, we were losing.

And as others who get it have posted. We need them both to play well. i suspect if it were reversed, the headlines would be talking about how the sleeping Giant Yao awakened in the second half and "won the game."

Maybe I am wrong, but I suspect that is how it would be.

Can't we all just try to get along, and quit worrying whether Journalists have accurately given credit where credit is due?

Rockets won, and it took both our stars to do it. Tmac came through when we needed him to. It takes nothing away from Yao's performance to me, regardless the angle taken in the media, or your perception thereof. Take the bite out of either of their contributions in Game1, and we probably don't finish with a win.

We will need more from our other roleplayers to win game 2, and consistent play from both our stars.

 

For this game,
Without Yao, rox couldn't win.
Without T-mac,rox couldn'twin either.
With them BOTH, we won!
this is simple.
they are BOTH important to the rockets.

 

exactly. i saw yao being a great teammate cheering for all of his guys, regardless of who gets the love. if you like yao, why not try to model yourself after him? jealousy is a bad trait.

i'm sure if yao gets credit ,tmac wouldn't care b/c tmac knows he's crucial to the team. the reason yao doesn't care if tmac gets credit is he knows he's crucial to this team.

the good thing is they only get credit when the TEAM WINS. so i don't care who gets credit b/c i know when some one does get credit, the rocktes are winning. that means they're doing well. that means yao and tmac doing well.

 

I am telling you to look yourself in the mirror before you pass judgement on the other people next time. The only one who is overly sensitive in this thread is you. But I do agree that you have been wasting your time arguing over a senseless topic. It took you a long time to see that though. Not smart.

 

Very true. The idiots who bash Yao to support Tmac and the idiots who bash Tmac to support Yao are all dumb. Anyone who has done that before is an idiot. Do you agree with me?

 

criticism is fine by me. if tmac plays a bad half, it's fine to criticize him. if yao is weak when he gets stripped so easily, criticism is fine.

but please, don't go into a tangent saying tmac should be traded, yao's better, tmac's better...

criticism is good i believe, but i agree w/ u bashing is stupid.

 

YOU TOF's are a joke. most real neutral guys would say both our stars contributed and both were the reason we won, not just tracy

 

I really dont know why i'm even commenting on this, but i will. The reason Shaq says he's the most dominant ever is because not only would he score 30, but his opponet would score less than 10. Yao can be that way if he could compete on a high level for 35 mins, but he doesn't. In the 1st qt yao grabs his shorts and in the 4th he does also. The Rox have to use Yao when he's on the court because he doesn't dominate for long periods. Tracy on the other hand can turn it on anytime during the game. I think if yao could produce at a high level form more time during the ball game, Tracy would probably be more agressive, but he doesn't because of it. The Rox need both to win and go deep, but as shown in the regular season that when t-mac has to carry a team, he can and the team can be successful. They need both, so everyone needs to stop tripping.

 

You're the man to point out the stupidity that exists in some guys here.
Kudos to you.
When they feel jealousy of Yao's overshining TMac, they'll label whoever defends Yao as YOF, and make it look as if they aren't the same.
I too don't feel very comfortable about TMac stole all the praise, but it was OK cause Yao didn't care about it at all (at least he didn't show it). But when some guys here went as far as discrediting Yao's effort to some extreme, it gets annoying and saddening. They just lowered their level to Barkley who only knows arguing over whose team it is. When Rockets win, every one of it would benefit; while when they fall, every one are to blame. No matter what you talked, if you couldn't show your contributions, you were just blaffing. Yao is doing exactly what he'd do, making his presence felt to the maximum extend, and helping the team to win. I only hope TMac could do what he talked and at least are consistent.
Those "true Rockets fans" who hate so-called YOFs so much, they are not any team's fans, they just hate and don't really know sport.

 

blazer_ben couldn't even spell out a whole correct sentence, so go easy on him. It's not his fault being so ignorant.

 

argument like this is getting stupid and disgusting.

please stop it ! YOFs or TOFs, please just be Rockets Fans!

 

Great post. Objective. To the point.
No more bashing and stupid hatred, plus some racist attitude I smell here. Fans battling themselves after a win is stupid.
Hope rfila's post ends this f**king stupid discussion about who is more important than another.

 

Why is everyone getting mad at everyone else?

Um Yao helped us in 1st half, TMac helped us more in 2nd half.

Guess what we need both to win.

Yao got something like 15/9 in 1st half, 13/4 or something in 2nd half.
Tmac got somethign like 1/5 assist in 1st half, 23/2 assists in 2nd half.

Hey guess what it wasnt fact that we need Yao or Tmac more just look at discrepincy (spelling I know its wrong). 16/9/5 VS. 36/4/2. Those 20 points are the difference right there.

Guys if either wasn't there I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but we may get out of this series, but I doubt we would beat Dallas or even GS. Jazz are playing terribly right now so we can beat without 1 superstar MAYBE, but without both we have no chance to win it all. (No sorry Deke is not a subsitute for Yao and No sorry Bonzi/Head/Novak whoever u think is.. is not a subsistute for Tracy).

The End.

 

So there are some points:

1. Yao is a core member, but not a leader as T-mac is. When T-mac rolls, the whole team rolls. When Yao rolls, his teammates may suck.

2. It doesn't mean Yao is less important or has less contribution to the team. We need them both. Their contribution and importance are EQUAL. Yao builds a foundation of Rocket's vicroty while T-mac rush to the goal.

3. Compare with T-mac, Yao is stabler, not physically but mentally. And it is reasonable that people care more about a variable than a constant.

4. This may be T-mac's first winning serie, which makes a lot of suspense.

5. It's too early to dispute this. This is funny to discuss how much credit Yao or T-mac has gotten because we have only won the 1st game of the 1st series. And I don't think Yao cares about this. He only cares about victory. I am sure Yao will get whatever he deserves when the day Rocket wins the title comes.

 

Nothing to see here ... move along

 

Lol.you just butcherd the English Language.

 

Oh this is Rich. and you have the nerve to say i cant put a SENTENCE TOGETHER?. LOL HAHA. LOOK IN THE MIRROR
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